Well I had the "pros" over the house today to take a look. Under magnification, you can see specs of silver in the copper. VERY cool indeed. They were certain that these are Hopewell artifacts. They have been hunting and collecting for over thirty years on this stuff. They also stated that copper finds are very very rare in Illinois. Most of their finds have been made of stone.
hey Doug really cool finds, most of the old copper came from the copper country here in the Upper Peninsula of Mi. and the island of Isle Royal in lake Superior, they have found copper artifacts dating back 7ooo years in Oconto, Wi. Copper was traded all over the U.S. from here. a fascinating book on the copperculture is, Michigan's Pre History's Mysteries. makes you think how old this country really is.
um dan what do stone structures have to do with copper tools ?
there is no mention of what you mentioned in your post? heres the text
The purported pyramids found on the muddy floor of Wisconsin's Rock Lake are so fascinating that we must pass on the following report, even though it comes from outside the group of publications we usually rely on. In fact, we have never seen anything on these pyramids in the scientific press, although in SF#30 we did present an earlier report on them from the Wisconsin State Journal. So, caveat emptor!
Rock Lake Pyramid
The first sketch of the Rock Lake Pyramid from a 1970 issue of Skin Diver, as presented in Ancient Man.
The author of this article, F. Joseph, states that beneath the surface of Rock Lake lie at least ten structures. Two of these have been mapped and photographed by skin divers and sonar. Structure #1, which has been dubbed the Limnatis Pyramid, has a base width of 60 feet, a length of about 100 feet, and a height of 18 feet, although only about 10 feet protrude from the silt and mud. It is a truncated pyramid, built largely out of round, black stones. On the truncated top, the stones are squarish. The remains of a plaster coating can be discerned.
The Rock Lake structures are made more believable by the presence, 3 miles away, of the Indian site of Aztalan. There, there are two truncated, earthen pyramids, partially surrounded by a tall stockade, which was originally plastered. Aztalan seems to have been occupied as late as the Fourteenth Century.
(Joseph, Francis; "Found: The Lost Pyramids of Rock Lake," Fate, 42:88, October 1989.)
Now those are a find of a lifetime. Most of us get excited on breaking the 18th century for coins let alone ancient tools......Congrats from one Doug to another....
Crap, that's an incredible find. I wish you would have gotten more for them on ebay though. I would have thought that they would have been worth more than that. Great find and a great pic...thanks for sharing it with us.