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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    It's banner time in Tennessee. Congratulations on a stellar find.
    Dman

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    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Very unique find looks good on top. Jim
    If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver copper and iron why leave them in the ground to disappear forever , dig them out and save History !!

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quindy,
    Congrats to a well deserved BANNER CW find. That piece even looks better up top.
    Great piece of history. I can almost picture a CW soldier sitting around a fire carving it, wondering what the next day will be like.
    Well done,
    Dug

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
    Oh yes, significance AND shape Romeo...very rare find!!!
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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
    Both Romeo. Carved bullets are found in a ratio of about 1 to 200 that you dig here in Tennessee. Bored soldiers carved them in camps. Just because you can see knife marks on them doesn't mean they were carved. You find more "whittled" than carved on bullets like a bullet cut in half. It's rare to find one like this as it happens to be the same shape as a U.S. CW "Corps" badge. The corps of the Union adopted symbols used as corps badges during the war. Note the page from Time Life Books that I attached. This one happens to be the same symbol of the U.S. 14th Corps which was stationed close by here early in the war. However as Zaxfire's info. shows, the 14th corps did not FORMALLY adopt the acorn as their corps badge until they were stationed near Chattanooga, TN (over 120 miles away) in late 1863. This camp was used in mid to late 1862. We will never know for sure who carved it. The "acorn" is .680 in. diameter. Most you see are carved from a .58 cal. 3 ring bullet so the relic dealers told me. Thanks for looking and HH, Quindy.
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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMiner
    Quindy,
    Congrats to a well deserved BANNER CW find. That piece even looks better up top.
    Great piece of history. I can almost picture a CW soldier sitting around a fire carving it, wondering what the next day will be like.
    Well done,
    Dug

    I can't tell you how many times I have regretted letting TENN JOSH make that pic last winter as you and Nana continue to edit it-LOL. Thanks MM, Q.
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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMiner
    Quindy,
    Congrats to a well deserved BANNER CW find. That piece even looks better up top.
    Great piece of history. I can almost picture a CW soldier sitting around a fire carving it, wondering what the next day will be like.
    Well done,
    Dug
    I can't tell you how many times I have regretted letting TENN JOSH make that pic last winter as you and Nana continue to edit it-LOL. Thanks MM, Q.
    HA! Jack Wagon has a picture file on all of us Q! You never when or how he will use them!
    Congrats on making Banner!

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Congrats on making the Banner with one of the coolest things I ever saw, ! When I see stuff like that I think about when the guy was actually doing the carving it and what was going on around him at the time, nice piece of History, !

    TommNJ

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    A BIG thank you to all who looked, replied, and voted on the acorn for banner. I attached a pic of a dropped .69 cal. 3 ringer that I dug from that same CSA camp and the carved tooth came from within one hundred yards or so from where I dug the acorn bullet. I believe the .69 cal. 3 ringer is an Austrian but haven't measured it. I'm still trying to determine whether the acorn was just carved by a CSA Soldier or a captured U.S. 14th Corps symbol left in a Union cartridge box. Thanks for all your support, Quindy.
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    Well look at you! Way to go on the banner! And I'm sure there will be another up there before the season is over this year.
    I'll be nice since you are doing research for me today and NOT re-edit that photo again.

    CONGRATS!!

    Nana

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Nice digs Quindy. And Congrats on making the banner. Looks good up there.

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
    Both Romeo. Carved bullets are found in a ratio of about 1 to 200 that you dig here in Tennessee. Bored soldiers carved them in camps. Just because you can see knife marks on them doesn't mean they were carved. You find more "whittled" than carved on bullets like a bullet cut in half. It's rare to find one like this as it happens to be the same shape as a U.S. CW "Corps" badge. The corps of the Union adopted symbols used as corps badges during the war. Note the page from Time Life Books that I attached. This one happens to be the same symbol of the U.S. 14th Corps which was stationed close by here early in the war. However as Zaxfire's info. shows, the 14th corps did not FORMALLY adopt the acorn as their corps badge until they were stationed near Chattanooga, TN (over 120 miles away) in late 1863. This camp was used in mid to late 1862. We will never know for sure who carved it. The "acorn" is .680 in. diameter. Most you see are carved from a .58 cal. 3 ring bullet so the relic dealers told me. Thanks for looking and HH, Quindy.

    Congratulations on the Banner. I'd have to say that you're splitting hairs however to the above reference between "Carved" and "Whittled" bullets. I've dug with alot of relic hunters over the years and they've all called them carved bullets the majority of the time, sometimes called them whittled but they've invariably always used the terms interchangeably. Some are just carved into pieces, others carved into Masterpieces such as chess pieces and corps badges but the term "carved" as in "carved up lead" has always been used to represent both.

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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMan1
    Quote Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
    Both Romeo. Carved bullets are found in a ratio of about 1 to 200 that you dig here in Tennessee. Bored soldiers carved them in camps. Just because you can see knife marks on them doesn't mean they were carved. You find more "whittled" than carved on bullets like a bullet cut in half. It's rare to find one like this as it happens to be the same shape as a U.S. CW "Corps" badge. The corps of the Union adopted symbols used as corps badges during the war. Note the page from Time Life Books that I attached. This one happens to be the same symbol of the U.S. 14th Corps which was stationed close by here early in the war. However as Zaxfire's info. shows, the 14th corps did not FORMALLY adopt the acorn as their corps badge until they were stationed near Chattanooga, TN (over 120 miles away) in late 1863. This camp was used in mid to late 1862. We will never know for sure who carved it. The "acorn" is .680 in. diameter. Most you see are carved from a .58 cal. 3 ring bullet so the relic dealers told me. Thanks for looking and HH, Quindy.

    Congratulations on the Banner. I'd have to say that you're splitting hairs however to the above reference between "Carved" and "Whittled" bullets. I've dug with relic hunters for years and they've all called them carved bullets the majority of the time, sometimes called them whittled but they've invariably always used the terms interchangeably.
    Thanks Dirtman1. Let me clarify what I meant. a "whittled" bullet simply has knife marks on it. I have always considered a "carved' bullet to be one where the soldier attempted to depict an object or animal. To your point, where do you draw the line between a "carved" bullet and soldier's art? I guess the price determines that because I saw a carved pig on a relic site bring $200 and I was told by another dealer that it sold for $1,000 the last time it changed hands. Go figure!!! Thanks for looking, Quindy.

    Thanks Jesse (Mainer) and I'm glad your boat survived the hurricane there. I'm looking forward to my Maine lobsters-LOL. Quindy
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    Re: Carved Acorn from CSA Cavalry Camp Today--Authenticated + New Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtMan1
    Quote Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
    Quote Originally Posted by romeo-1
    Please educate me. Is this a banner find because it is a nicely carved bullet or is there significance to the acorn shape? It really is a beauty!
    Both Romeo. Carved bullets are found in a ratio of about 1 to 200 that you dig here in Tennessee. Bored soldiers carved them in camps. Just because you can see knife marks on them doesn't mean they were carved. You find more "whittled" than carved on bullets like a bullet cut in half. It's rare to find one like this as it happens to be the same shape as a U.S. CW "Corps" badge. The corps of the Union adopted symbols used as corps badges during the war. Note the page from Time Life Books that I attached. This one happens to be the same symbol of the U.S. 14th Corps which was stationed close by here early in the war. However as Zaxfire's info. shows, the 14th corps did not FORMALLY adopt the acorn as their corps badge until they were stationed near Chattanooga, TN (over 120 miles away) in late 1863. This camp was used in mid to late 1862. We will never know for sure who carved it. The "acorn" is .680 in. diameter. Most you see are carved from a .58 cal. 3 ring bullet so the relic dealers told me. Thanks for looking and HH, Quindy.

    Congratulations on the Banner. I'd have to say that you're splitting hairs however to the above reference between "Carved" and "Whittled" bullets. I've dug with relic hunters for years and they've all called them carved bullets the majority of the time, sometimes called them whittled but they've invariably always used the terms interchangeably.
    Thanks Dirtman1. Let me clarify what I meant. a "whittled" bullet simply has knife marks on it. I have always considered a "carved' bullet to be one where the soldier attempted to depict an object or animal. To your point, where do you draw the line between a "carved" bullet and soldier's art? I guess the price determines that because I saw a carved pig on a relic site bring $200 and I was told by another dealer that it sold for $1,000 the last time it changed hands. Go figure!!! Thanks for looking, Quindy.

    Thanks Jesse (Mainer) and I'm glad your boat survived the hurricane there. I'm looking forward to my Maine lobsters-LOL. Quindy
    Yes Sir, the Price....it always comes down to the Money (as with Everything it seems)

 

 
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