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Jun 07, 2015, 07:03 PM
#1
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
Low hopes and an entry level detector but I still ended up finding an awesome relic!
Anyways, Today I headed out to a place that did not look that good. I have tried with my T2 before but never found much but shotgun shells and pulltabs but gave it a try today. I decided to bring someone along and let them use my T2 while I used my old Fisher F2 from two years ago (did I mention that it goes crazy and will frantically beep due to the coil cable being lose). Anyways, I was not expecting much when I got a signal right in the middle of the biggest patch of poison ivy in the whole place. I figured it was worth it and dug. I battled through roots and leaves (which unfortunately were poison ivy leaves) after some digging the find was out. I let my hunting partner use the pinpointer which is already not much use considering it was a freebie that came with the metal detector (I'm getting my Pro-Pointer in the mail this Thursday ). Anyways, I dig out a weird piece of metal, I quickly can tell it's a sundial. I figure it's not much and probably 1930's garden. I finish the hunt with a handful of pulltabs, some shotgun shells, beer cans, a cool 1980's coke bottle which I kept , and a nice pair of hedgeclippers that were on the surface laying against a log that are sure to go to good use. Anyways, after I got home I saw that sundial looks to be colonial and made of pewter and made best relic of the year on some website. I was thrilled after reading that what looked like a poor find is really something great. I guess that what I have always told people I metal detect is true, it does not matter how bad a place is or how poor you may think your metal detector is, good finds can still pop up out of no where.
It's in very bad condition, to the point of where parts of the edge are crumbling in my hand but it is still all there.

Update: Here is a better photo

I just put the glue and water solution on it, it looks pretty good. I will post photos of it's
Here it is during elmer's glue cleaning...
display case soon.
Last edited by coinman123; Jun 08, 2015 at 04:43 PM.
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 07:23 PM
#2
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
Roman numeral four proves it dates pretty far back, it is written as "IIII" instead of IV. Looks like the "WN" is a maker.
Last edited by coinman123; Jun 07, 2015 at 07:35 PM.
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 07:28 PM
#3
Pretty dang good find CM. And if it keeps time its a great find. For all you youngsters no battery and doesn't plug in
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:37 PM
#4
I think that's a very cool find. In 2009 I found an early lead toy one. It was one of my favorite relics for the year.
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:38 PM
#5
That's a pretty cool relic!
It's a winner in my books!
I'm addicted to brake fluid and feel I can stop at any time.
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:40 PM
#6
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
I IDed the maker, NM, made by Miller! 1740-1780! Says that pewter sundials like this belong in museum! I am thrilled! Here is some info from Colonial Williamsbury, I found the same exact one made by the same maker on there!
https://books.google.com/books?id=Mw...0maker&f=false
I think this could be my best find ever...
Last edited by coinman123; Jun 07, 2015 at 07:47 PM.
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 07:41 PM
#7
Nice find! Can you please provide some indication of size?
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:43 PM
#8
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
 Originally Posted by Erik in NJ
Nice find! Can you please provide some indication of size?
A little bigger than 3" on diameter
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 07:45 PM
#9
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:46 PM
#10
Great find and article and you were bashing that ole F2. I think it did an excellent job as you were saying badwords
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:50 PM
#11
Thanks for the dimensions. Depending on the rarity it could very well be a banner find. You may want to coat it with Elmer's Glue and water mixture to prevent any more flaking. Very nice find!
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:55 PM
#12
Great Find! How bad did you get poison ivy?
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Jun 07, 2015, 07:56 PM
#13
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
 Originally Posted by Erik in NJ
Thanks for the dimensions. Depending on the rarity it could very well be a banner find. You may want to coat it with Elmer's Glue and water mixture to prevent any more flaking. Very nice find! 
I will have to try that method. Banner?... Not sure
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 08:00 PM
#14
 Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.
Last edited by coinman123; Jun 08, 2015 at 02:57 PM.
2014-2017 Finds
1700s Sundial
165? french liard
1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
1723 irish ½ penny
1730 KG coin toy
2x AU 1803 LC
1722 1/2 Penny
1779, 1781½ Real, ? 1 Real
NJ Copper 1786
1805,1838 LC
26 Coppers 17 colonial
175 1720-1850 buttons
40 Musket Balls
1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
2 1700s spigot
3 Thimbles 1 silver
Cleaning Finds:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

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Jun 07, 2015, 08:05 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by coinman123
I will have to try that method. Banner?... Not sure 
I think it's definitely banner worthy. That's actually very good condition for something like that.
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