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Thread: Low hopes and an entry level detector but I still ended up finding an awesome relic!

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  1. #1
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
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    3168 times
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    Low hopes and an entry level detector but I still ended up finding an awesome relic!

    Anyways, Today I headed out to a place that did not look that good. I have tried with my T2 before but never found much but shotgun shells and pulltabs but gave it a try today. I decided to bring someone along and let them use my T2 while I used my old Fisher F2 from two years ago (did I mention that it goes crazy and will frantically beep due to the coil cable being lose). Anyways, I was not expecting much when I got a signal right in the middle of the biggest patch of poison ivy in the whole place. I figured it was worth it and dug. I battled through roots and leaves (which unfortunately were poison ivy leaves) after some digging the find was out. I let my hunting partner use the pinpointer which is already not much use considering it was a freebie that came with the metal detector (I'm getting my Pro-Pointer in the mail this Thursday ). Anyways, I dig out a weird piece of metal, I quickly can tell it's a sundial. I figure it's not much and probably 1930's garden. I finish the hunt with a handful of pulltabs, some shotgun shells, beer cans, a cool 1980's coke bottle which I kept , and a nice pair of hedgeclippers that were on the surface laying against a log that are sure to go to good use. Anyways, after I got home I saw that sundial looks to be colonial and made of pewter and made best relic of the year on some website. I was thrilled after reading that what looked like a poor find is really something great. I guess that what I have always told people I metal detect is true, it does not matter how bad a place is or how poor you may think your metal detector is, good finds can still pop up out of no where.

    It's in very bad condition, to the point of where parts of the edge are crumbling in my hand but it is still all there.
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    I just put the glue and water solution on it, it looks pretty good. I will post photos of it's

    Here it is during elmer's glue cleaning...
    display case soon.Click image for larger version. 

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    Last edited by coinman123; Jun 08, 2015 at 04:43 PM.
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  2. #2
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
    3,705
    3168 times
    Coins and Relics
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    Roman numeral four proves it dates pretty far back, it is written as "IIII" instead of IV. Looks like the "WN" is a maker.
    Last edited by coinman123; Jun 07, 2015 at 07:35 PM.
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  3. #3
    Pretty dang good find CM. And if it keeps time its a great find. For all you youngsters no battery and doesn't plug in

  4. #4
    I think that's a very cool find. In 2009 I found an early lead toy one. It was one of my favorite relics for the year.
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  5. #5
    ca
    Oct 2009
    East Dirtyville
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    That's a pretty cool relic!
    It's a winner in my books!
    ...if you think I'm a pain in the neck, it's lower, lower,little bit lower, too low, higher, there ya go.....

  6. #6
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
    3,705
    3168 times
    Coins and Relics
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    I IDed the maker, NM, made by Miller! 1740-1780! Says that pewter sundials like this belong in museum! I am thrilled! Here is some info from Colonial Williamsbury, I found the same exact one made by the same maker on there!
    https://books.google.com/books?id=Mw...0maker&f=false


    I think this could be my best find ever...
    Last edited by coinman123; Jun 07, 2015 at 07:47 PM.
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  7. #7
    us
    Oct 2010
    The Garden State
    Minelab Explorer SE Pro & CTX-3030
    3,545
    1999 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (2)
    Nice find! Can you please provide some indication of size?

  8. #8
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
    3,705
    3168 times
    Coins and Relics
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Erik in NJ View Post
    Nice find! Can you please provide some indication of size?
    A little bigger than 3" on diameter
    Subterranean likes this.
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by coinman123 View Post
    I IDed the maker! 1740-1780! Says that pewter sundials like this belong in museum! I am thrilled! Here is some info from Colonial Williamsbury
    https://books.google.com/books?id=Mw...0maker&f=false




    That's what makes detecting great.... because I'm guessing you probably only had the thought you might find a Colonial sundial when you set out on the hunt. It's funny how we all make want lists but what turns out to be our better finds we never see coming.

  10. #10
    Great find and article and you were bashing that ole F2. I think it did an excellent job as you were saying badwords
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  11. #11
    us
    Oct 2010
    The Garden State
    Minelab Explorer SE Pro & CTX-3030
    3,545
    1999 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (2)
    Thanks for the dimensions. Depending on the rarity it could very well be a banner find. You may want to coat it with Elmer's Glue and water mixture to prevent any more flaking. Very nice find!
    DirtStalker and coinman123 like this.

  12. #12
    Great Find! How bad did you get poison ivy?

  13. #13
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
    3,705
    3168 times
    Coins and Relics
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Erik in NJ View Post
    Thanks for the dimensions. Depending on the rarity it could very well be a banner find. You may want to coat it with Elmer's Glue and water mixture to prevent any more flaking. Very nice find!
    I will have to try that method. Banner?... Not sure
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  14. #14
    us
    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
    Teknetics T2 SE (DST) Spare Teknetics T2 SE (backup) 15" T2 coil Pro-Pointer Bounty Hunter Pioneer 202 Fisher F2 Fisher F-Point
    3,705
    3168 times
    Coins and Relics
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (1)
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    Last edited by coinman123; Jun 08, 2015 at 02:57 PM.
    DirtStalker, sutphin and Davers like this.
    2014-2015 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s copper
    1723 irish penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    23 Coppers 15 colonial
    124 1720-1850 buttons
    31 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    13 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by coinman123 View Post
    I will have to try that method. Banner?... Not sure

    I think it's definitely banner worthy. That's actually very good condition for something like that.
    DirtStalker and coinman123 like this.

 

 
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