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  1. #1
    us
    Dec 2008
    East Texas
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    pumpkin seed

    how old is this?
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  2. #2

    Mar 2008
    Chicago IL
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Bottle King

    That is sharp!!!
    Come check out my MD'ing videos:
    http://youtube.com/user/TreasureFiend

  3. #3
    us
    Dec 2008
    East Texas
    348

    Re: Bottle King

    Quote Originally Posted by TreasureFiend
    That is sharp!!!
    lol drunk posting

  4. #4
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: Bottle King

    What do you want to know about your pumpkinseed flask?

    pumpkin seed-pumpkinseedcutglass.jpg
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  5. #5
    us
    Dec 2008
    East Texas
    348

    Re: Bottle King

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Pristis
    What do you want to know about your pumpkinseed flask?


    thats a screw top, ur bottle is not old.

  6. #6
    Unclenutsy

    Feb 2006
    Carsonville Michigan
    Bounty Hunter
    60

    Re: pumpkin seed

    Whats the seam of the neck look like? If it goes all the way to the top its most likely a reproduction like Wheaton or something.

  7. #7
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: pumpkin seed

    Quote Originally Posted by unclenutsy
    Whats the seam of the neck look like? If it goes all the way to the top its most likely a reproduction like Wheaton or something.
    [font=comic sans ms]Glad to find some bottle-collectors here.

    My pocket flask? hmmmm. It's about 110 years old, give or take a few years. Notice the slight purpling of the glass compared with the flask on the right.

    The BIM ground-lip finish was around for a while before that. Cecil Munsey in his book, THE ILLUSTRATED GUIDE TO COLLECTING BOTTLES, doesn't pay much attention to these pumpkinseed flasks; but, he does figure a couple of milk glass figural pocket flasks on pp. 129. Both have screw tops. One of those, the Klondyke Whiskey bottle, he dates to 1860-65. I have one of those Klondyke Whiskey flasks with the pewter screw cap -- it's lip finish is much like the pumpkinseed flask.
    pumpkin seed-pumpkinseedpair.jpgpumpkin seed-pumpkinseedgroundlip.jpg
    [size=14pt]I am more interested in earlier bottles, but these flasks are attractive and easy to display. I have a something from most categories of bottles, and pumpkinseed flasks have a shelf in my collection. Here's a half-pint pocket flask with no base -- no tell-tale bottle line in a pocket. I have seen one of these with a bitters label on it.

    pumpkin seed-flasklucitestand.jpg
    -------Harry Pristis
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  8. #8
    us
    Dec 2008
    East Texas
    348

    Re: pumpkin seed

    Quote Originally Posted by unclenutsy
    Whats the seam of the neck look like? If it goes all the way to the top its most likely a reproduction like Wheaton or something.
    its not IBM.

  9. #9
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: pumpkin seed

    Quote Originally Posted by ink-a-alot
    Quote Originally Posted by unclenutsy
    Whats the seam of the neck look like? If it goes all the way to the top its most likely a reproduction like Wheaton or something.
    its not IBM.
    Right on! This bottle is not IBM, but it is BIM (Blown in a Mold) . . . all these bottles that are not ABM (Automatic Bottle Machine) products are blown in a mold. After my pumpkinseed was blown and cracked off and annealed, the sharp edge was ground for safety and for a seal inside a screw cap.

    Here's an image of a couple of quarter-pint pumpkinseed flasks on my shelf.

    pumpkin seed-pumpkinseedsmallpair.jpg
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  10. #10
    Unclenutsy

    Feb 2006
    Carsonville Michigan
    Bounty Hunter
    60

    Re: pumpkin seed

    First off...Nice bottles Harry. I really like the screw top with the ground lip because its so different..As for Ink-Alots flask.... He asked in the first post -How old it was- and thought it may be A.B.M because of the lip but I have been wrong before. Dug a few strapsides a while back and but traded em for something I collect and really wish I could dig a Local Embossed Flask because they bring good money or trades around here. Gonna break some frost Saturday and its suppose to be around 40 so I got a privy lined up and will post some pics...Happy Digging

  11. #11
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
    1,066
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    Re: pumpkin seed

    Quote Originally Posted by unclenutsy
    First off...Nice bottles Harry. I really like the screw top with the ground lip because its so different..As for Ink-Alots flask.... He asked in the first post -How old it was- and thought it may be A.B.M because of the lip but I have been wrong before. Dug a few strapsides a while back and but traded em for something I collect and really wish I could dig a Local Embossed Flask because they bring good money or trades around here. Gonna break some frost Saturday and its suppose to be around 40 so I got a privy lined up and will post some pics...Happy Digging
    Thanks, 'uncle' -- glad you like the bottles.

    I do see that 'inks' did get more specific with his question. All these flasks date from the 1880s to about 1910, or so.

    I think that the use of attractive and novelty flasks for whiskey was spurred by the rise of prohibitionist sentiment in the country. I think that these decorative or whimsical flasks were used to counter the demonization of spirits by the advocates of prohibition.

    In 1895 the Anti Saloon Leage had become a powerful, national organization. In 1913, the League announced its campaign to achieve national prohibition through a constitutional amendment. In 1916, an alliance of temperance organizations propelled the election of two-thirds majorities in both houses of Congress necessary to initiate what became the Eighteenth Amendment to our Constitution -- Prohibition.

    After 1918, there was no use for clever marketing. The Prohibition Era whiskey flasks, which were sold only with a physician's prescription, tend to be relatively austere and functional.

    pumpkin seed-pumpkinseedacolburnco.jpg
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  12. #12
    us
    Dec 2008
    East Texas
    348

    Re: pumpkin seed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Pristis
    Quote Originally Posted by unclenutsy
    First off...Nice bottles Harry. I really like the screw top with the ground lip because its so different..As for Ink-Alots flask.... He asked in the first post -How old it was- and thought it may be A.B.M because of the lip but I have been wrong before. Dug a few strapsides a while back and but traded em for something I collect and really wish I could dig a Local Embossed Flask because they bring good money or trades around here. Gonna break some frost Saturday and its suppose to be around 40 so I got a privy lined up and will post some pics...Happy Digging
    Thanks, 'uncle' -- glad you like the bottles.

    I do see that 'inks' did get more specific with his question. All these flasks date from the 1880s to about 1910, or so.

    I think that the use of attractive and novelty flasks for whiskey was spurred by the rise of prohibitionist sentiment in the country. I think that these decorative or whimsical flasks were used to counter the demonization of spirits by the advocates of prohibition.

    In 1895 the Anti Saloon Leage had become a powerful, national organization. In 1913, the League announced its campaign to achieve national prohibition through a constitutional amendment. In 1916, an alliance of temperance organizations propelled the election of two-thirds majorities in both houses of Congress necessary to initiate what became the Eighteenth Amendment to our Constitution -- Prohibition.

    After 1918, there was no use for clever marketing. The Prohibition Era whiskey flasks, which were sold only with a physician's prescription, tend to be relatively austere and functional.


    thanks for your help

 

 

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