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    Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    I found these years ago. The one on the left is castor oil. There was a whole case of them in an old store with the labels still on them. The label just crumbled away. The owner gave me one of them.

    The one on the right was found under an antebellum home with only the neck sticking out of the dirt. I really don't think it is that old but was looking for any info on it. There is no mold line anywhere on it. I added the last pic so you could see the top better.

    Thought I would share.

    Randy
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    Re: Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPG
    I found these years ago. The one on the left is castor oil. There was a whole case of them in an old store with the labels still on them. The label just crumbled away. The owner gave me one of them.

    The one on the right was found under an antebellum home with only the neck sticking out of the dirt. I really don't think it is that old but was looking for any info on it. There is no mold line anywhere on it. I added the last pic so you could see the top better.

    Thought I would share.

    Randy
    Hi, Randy . . . Not much interest in a plain castor oil bottle with no label, I fear. The other bottle is much more interesting.

    I can't say for sure, but it appears that you have a hand-tooled crown-top there . . . with a kick-up, no less! About 1905, for a few years more or less, the new crown-top bottle was finished by hand. You'll have to look carefully for any irregularity in the top -- a machine bottle will be flawlessly symmetrical.

    The kick-up is a wine bottle feature, and strikes my eye as strange. It is unlikely, though, to be a crown-top wine. It seems to be an interesting "evolutionary dead-end" of bottle-making. Thanks for posting.
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

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    Re: Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Pristis
    Quote Originally Posted by RPG
    I found these years ago. The one on the left is castor oil. There was a whole case of them in an old store with the labels still on them. The label just crumbled away. The owner gave me one of them.

    The one on the right was found under an antebellum home with only the neck sticking out of the dirt. I really don't think it is that old but was looking for any info on it. There is no mold line anywhere on it. I added the last pic so you could see the top better.

    Thought I would share.

    Randy
    Hi, Randy . . . Not much interest in a plain castor oil bottle with no label, I fear. The other bottle is much more interesting.

    I can't say for sure, but it appears that you have a hand-tooled crown-top there . . . with a kick-up, no less! About 1905, for a few years more or less, the new crown-top bottle was finished by hand. You'll have to look carefully for any irregularity in the top -- a machine bottle will be flawlessly symmetrical.

    The kick-up is a wine bottle feature, and strikes my eye as strange. It is unlikely, though, to be a crown-top wine. It seems to be an interesting "evolutionary dead-end" of bottle-making. Thanks for posting.
    Thanks for the reply Harry.

    The castor oil bottle was interesting because I was raised on it. Wish the label had been in better shape.

    I will look at the other bottle a little better. If not a wine bottle, what do you think it is?

    Randy

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    Re: Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPG

    Thanks for the reply Harry.

    The castor oil bottle was interesting because I was raised on it. Wish the label had been in better shape.

    I will look at the other bottle a little better. If not a wine bottle, what do you think it is?

    Randy
    The more I look at it, the more confident I become that this is a hand-finished crown-top. So, figure 1905, or so.

    What did it contain? I don't know. The big users of crown-top bottles were soft-drink bottlers and beer bottlers.

    Could this have been an alcoholic beverage that wanted to be confused with wine (think "Champale, the champagne of bottled beer")?? Maybe. The color is right -- dark colored glass was/is thought to protect ales and stouts. Ale and stout didn't need refrigeration, so they were more popular in 1905 than they are now (with refrigerated pilsners readily available).

    Anyway, that's the direction I would take my research were I you.
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

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    Re: Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Pristis
    Quote Originally Posted by RPG

    Thanks for the reply Harry.

    The castor oil bottle was interesting because I was raised on it. Wish the label had been in better shape.

    I will look at the other bottle a little better. If not a wine bottle, what do you think it is?

    Randy
    The more I look at it, the more confident I become that this is a hand-finished crown-top. So, figure 1905, or so.

    What did it contain? I don't know. The big users of crown-top bottles were soft-drink bottlers and beer bottlers.

    Could this have been an alcoholic beverage that wanted to be confused with wine (think "Champale, the champagne of bottled beer")?? Maybe. The color is right -- dark colored glass was/is thought to protect ales and stouts. Ale and stout didn't need refrigeration, so they were more popular in 1905 than they are now (with refrigerated pilsners readily available).

    Anyway, that's the direction I would take my research were I you.
    Thanks Harry...I guess it's a keeper for my small but ever growing collection.

    I see some of the bottles you guys post and am amazed.

    Maybe one day.

    Randy

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    Re: Couple I've Found. Info Needed.

    cool looking bottles !
    ALLEN

 

 

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