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  1. #1
    ca
    Oct 2009
    118

    What kind of bottle..?

    I sent an email to one of the pro bottle guys and hope to get a responce. I don't know much about it. Here is my expert evaluation..

    -It's Blue
    -8 3/4 inches high (approximate)
    -I think it is BIM. The side seams run up the bottle and stop or fade away at the neck.
    -The top or lip of the bottle seems to have been applied afterwards as a different piece.
    - It has an almost very smooth base with a circular upward indentation. No manufacturer marks.
    -It appears to have another seam running horizontally 1/3rd down from the top of the bottle.

    Maybe it is not even a bottle, but it is #1 in my book.

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  2. #2
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
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    Re: What kind of bottle..?

    It is a vessel manufactured in the 20th century to resemble the style of 19th century Midwestern (Ohio, typically) glass.

    The piece has little or no collector interest. It's a pretty window decoration, so enjoy it for what it is.
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  3. #3
    us
    Oct 2009
    Northern VA
    Whites Blue Gray & Tesoro Cibola
    2,755

    Re: What kind of bottle..?

    I'd have to agree. There are lines through and around the lip As far as I know that shows it was made by a machine. It's a cool looking bottle though.

  4. #4
    ca
    Oct 2009
    118

    Re: What kind of bottle..?

    Thanks! Here is something I'm not sure about. I am still trying to learn about bottles and one thing I read is "Check to see if seams go all the way from the base to the lip. If the seam disappears in the neck, then the bottle was probably "blown-in-mold," and dates circa 1800s to 1915."

    Are there any exceptions to this rule?

  5. #5
    us
    Feb 2009
    Northcentral Florida
    1,066
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    Re: What kind of bottle..?

    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic
    Thanks! Here is something I'm not sure about. I am still trying to learn about bottles and one thing I read is "Check to see if seams go all the way from the base to the lip. If the seam disappears in the neck, then the bottle was probably "blown-in-mold," and dates circa 1800s to 1915."

    Are there any exceptions to this rule?
    That is a bit of shorthand that can be mis-leading. The real distinction you want to make is between "hand-finished" bottles and "machine-made" bottles. Prior to about 1903, bottles were hand-finished -- that is, the lip was tooled by hand to "finish" the bottle. No mold marks (seams) appear on the lip of a hand-finished bottle.

    Between 1903 and say 1918, automatic bottle machines took over the industry. By the time of Prohibition, all utility bottles were being made by machine. The machine formed the entire bottle and left mold marks on the lip.

    In this case, the significant difference between a hand-finished bottle and machine-made bottle is the mold marks (seams) on the lip. The lip of your flask has 'em, therefore it is a machine-made bottle produced in the 20th century.
    “A man should keep his little brain attic stocked with all the furniture that he is likely to use, and the rest he can put away in the lumber room of his library, where he can get it if he wants it.”
    --Sherlock Holmes (Arthur Conan Doyle) in "The Sign of Four"

  6. #6
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    us
    Sep 2009
    Southern California
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    Re: What kind of bottle..?

    Cryptic ~

    I just now scrolled to this thread and thought I would share the following link with you in the hope it helps further your ongoing bottle education. It's quite extensive and should help shine a light on a variety of aspects. I hope you enjoy it.

    SODABOB

    http://www.sha.org/bottle/index.htm

 

 

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