Wine Bottle date help

BeachComber7

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I found this bottle a few years ago inland, at an old railroad depot site. I have not been able to date it. The bottle holds one pint, Monarch Wines is embossed, has a seam on both sides which fades as it approaches the neck. The lip is gone so there is no way to tell if the seam went all the way up or not. It is embossed on 3 sides and I included what may be some sort of seal or ID, 2 lions (or some sort of animal) on either side of a shield that does not appear to have an initial or anything in the middle. Empty, the bottle has some weight to it, cannot imagine the weight after its filled! My research brings up a LOT of Monarch butterflies!!

Any help would be appreciated!
 

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GTK96

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Doesn't look very old to me...I would have to guess >1940
 

bottles10

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You see that thin circle line on the bottom.That also tells you it is machine made bottle. The cruder the circle the older the bottle. I would guess your bottle is from the 20s or early 30s. This is for American made bottles only.
 

Harry Pristis

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You see that thin circle line on the bottom.That also tells you it is machine made bottle. The cruder the circle the older the bottle. I would guess your bottle is from the 20s or early 30s. This is for American made bottles only.


I think that 'bottles10' is on the right track -- that does appear to be a valve mark on the bottom. It's probably not from the 1920s or early 30s because that would have been during Prohibition. My guess is that this is a bottle from just before Prohibition (say 1915-18) or, less likely, from just after Prohibition (say 1935). But, I am not familiar with this particular wine bottle.
 

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BeachComber7

BeachComber7

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I dug this bottle up, it was buried with other stuff from the era-railroad spikes, parts of the train and depot from back in the day. After reading
the comments above, I learned that the train arrived in the area in about 1914 and a depot was built by 1915. The train ceased operations
some time in the mid to late 1940's but I do not know when the depot itself was destroyed. So it appears this bottle was probably anywhere
between 1914 and 1940 at the latest. Thank you everyone!! I wish we could have ID'd the maker but since it is American made based on the
'base', I know that it is from the area somewhere.
 

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I found a bunch if bottles with my siblings a long time ago when we were little, I have now then decided to look through all the bottles we found and there was one just like it. it was hard to found answers to this one all that showed up was Monarch wine. I'm not to serious about bottle collecting or anything just looking for answers to the bottles that me and my siblings found Thanks for unintentionally helping me have a nice day.
 

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