needing appraisal for glass bottels VERY RARE BOTTLES

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I have a G.K. SMITH & Co medicine bottle and looking for facts and possible prices for this bottle it is dirty but i have the materials to clean it. It doesnt have any dings or cracks

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surf

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Hey Wheaties,

You've got an oldie there, but why are you calling it "VERY RARE?"

Please clean it up and take some natural light photos of the entire bottle, with closeups of the base, and the lip.

Is it pontiled?

Here's some history: Smith, Kline & French Co.

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Hey Wheaties,

You've got an oldie there, but why are you calling it "VERY RARE?"

Please clean it up and take some natural light photos of the entire bottle, with closeups of the base, and the lip.

Is it pontiled?

Here's some history: Smith, Kline & French Co.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=904565"/>

I did some research myself and it said it was rare
 

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Hey Wheaties,

You've got an oldie there, but why are you calling it "VERY RARE?"

Please clean it up and take some natural light photos of the entire bottle, with closeups of the base, and the lip.

Is it pontiled?

Here's some history: Smith, Kline & French Co.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=904565"/>

And what does pontiled mean
 

surf

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And what does pontiled mean

Wheaties,

Empontiling is part of the glass making process, wherein the gaffer would us an iron rod or blowpipe to hold the bottle while finishing it.

"Pontil mark or scar - Highly variable scar or roughage left on the base of a bottle which was held for finishing by some type of pontil rod. Various types and names include: open pontil (collector jargon), glass-tipped pontil, iron pontil, improved pontil, graphite pontil (collector jargon), scarred base, "sticky ball" pontil, sand pontil, and others. Pontil scars are highly variable in shape and appearance. It is suggested that a user view the pontil scar or mark portion of the Bottle Bases page for numerous examples of the different types and variations of pontil scars, as well as descriptions of how they were formed." Bottle Glossary Page

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"SmithKline Beecham P.L.C. had its beginnings 170 years ago when John K. Smith opened a drugstore on North Second Street in Philadelphia's Northern Liberties.

Smith then formed a drug wholesale company - John K. Smith & Co. - with his younger brother, George, in 1841. After his brother's death four years later, George Smith ran the drug wholesaling business until his own death in 1864.

Renamed George K. Smith & Co., the firm grew with large orders of quinine from the U.S. Army to treat soldiers in the war with Mexico…

Back in Philadelphia, Ephraim K. Smith - the nephew of the founders and a graduate of the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy - continued to expand George K. Smith & Co. with offerings that included patent medicines such as "magnetic worm syrup." Merger's Roots Span 170 Years - Philly.com

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It's a good find if open pontiled, in the $250-300 range if perfect...
 

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Wheaties,

Empontiling is part of the glass making process, wherein the gaffer would us an iron rod or blowpipe to hold the bottle while finishing it.

"Pontil mark or scar - Highly variable scar or roughage left on the base of a bottle which was held for finishing by some type of pontil rod. Various types and names include: open pontil (collector jargon), glass-tipped pontil, iron pontil, improved pontil, graphite pontil (collector jargon), scarred base, "sticky ball" pontil, sand pontil, and others. Pontil scars are highly variable in shape and appearance. It is suggested that a user view the pontil scar or mark portion of the Bottle Bases page for numerous examples of the different types and variations of pontil scars, as well as descriptions of how they were formed." Bottle Glossary Page

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=904636"/>

"SmithKline Beecham P.L.C. had its beginnings 170 years ago when John K. Smith opened a drugstore on North Second Street in Philadelphia's Northern Liberties.

Smith then formed a drug wholesale company - John K. Smith & Co. - with his younger brother, George, in 1841. After his brother's death four years later, George Smith ran the drug wholesaling business until his own death in 1864.

Renamed George K. Smith & Co., the firm grew with large orders of quinine from the U.S. Army to treat soldiers in the war with Mexico&#133;

Back in Philadelphia, Ephraim K. Smith - the nephew of the founders and a graduate of the Philadelphia College of Pharmacy - continued to expand George K. Smith & Co. with offerings that included patent medicines such as "magnetic worm syrup." Merger's Roots Span 170 Years - Philly.com

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=904646"/>

The pontiled is open at the bottom
 

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