175 year old free blown glass bottle! Beautiful!

[Guest 1551]

This bottle is by far the longest, most intense and frustrating re-construction job i've ever undergone with my artifacts. I've spent about 6 hours of the past couple days gluing this thing together! This beautiful rum bottle dates from the 1820s through the 1830s. Fragments of this type of bottle are common finds among Second Seminole War army campsites. (They were soldiers! What do you think they were drinking? Water?) I've tried dozens of times in the past to glue the neck of this bottle together but had never suceeded due to the glass shards not lining up right. This bottle is still missing about a 6th of it's glass on the other side, but you never know, maybe one day i'll find the rest of it.

 

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Nice bottle, could have been ale or whiskey. I don't think it was a free blown, I suspect it was blown in a 3 piece mold, nice piece and kudos on the reconstruction....

 

[Red James Cash]

Pretty close to a 3 piece mold bottle i have,the lip is different though.

 

[Bass]

Great job on the reconstruction and the patience to get it done. Leaning toward the 3pc mold as well. Hope you get the rest of it. Have you sifted the area?

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[gleaner1]

1870 ish

 

[Guest 1551]

Thanks everyone for the info on it being a 3 pc mold.

1870 ish

Actually it is 1830s or so. I dug the pieces up in a Second Seminole War United States Federal army camp i'm excavating on my property.

 

[Guest 1551]

Great job on the reconstruction and the patience to get it done. Leaning toward the 3pc mold as well. Hope you get the rest of it. Have you sifted the area?

Yep, i've been sifting the area for the past 2 years now. I've sifted well over 75 tons of dirt! The larger part of the base was found about 5 feet down in a 12 foot privy i sifted out. Pieces of the sides were also in the privy whereas the neck was found 25-35 feet away about 8 inches down.

 

[CoilyGirl]

Love the double lip on your bottle,the reconstruction of it is a bang up good job.

 

[gleaner1]

Will you show us the pics of the pontil on that good lookin old timer?

 

[Guest 1551]

Will you show us the pics of the pontil on that good lookin old timer?

I've taken a picture and will post the pic once i get to St Augustine this afternoon.

 

[Guest 1551]

Here's the picture!

 

[Harry Pristis]

I'm impressed with the effort to reconstruct this bottle, Donneybrook. What are the bottle height and diameter?

I have no problem calling it an 1830s bottle. Many (most?) of the early utility bottles like this were dip-mold blown. It should be apparent if this were a three-piece mold bottle . . . you've got enough of the shoulder to see at least one vertical seam if it's a 3-mold bottle.

In Florida, there isn't a lot of glass earlier than these 'fort bottles.'

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[Guest 1551]

I'm impressed with the effort to reconstruct this bottle, Donneybrook. What are the bottle height and diameter?

I have no problem calling it an 1830s bottle. Many (most?) of the early utility bottles like this were dip-mold blown. It should be apparent if this were a three-piece mold bottle . . . you've got enough of the shoulder to see at least one vertical seam if it's a 3-mold bottle.

In Florida, there isn't a lot of glass earlier than these 'fort bottles.'

Since I'm not at my house (won't be till next Saturday) I don't know the dimensions, but it's probably about 16-18 inches high and the diameter is about 5-6 inches.

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[gleaner1]

It's deceiving how digital media fools the eye on color. The first pic is olive. The pontil pic is dead green. You see?

 

[Guest 1551]

It's deceiving how digital media fools the eye on color. The first pic is olive. The pontil pic is dead green. You see?

It's olive the dark green pontil is cause I enhanced it

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[Harry Pristis]

Since I'm not at my house (won't be till next Saturday) I don't know the dimensions, but it's probably about 16-18 inches high and the diameter is about 5-6 inches.

What is the actual height and diameter of the bottle? Your estimate of 16-18 inches is far from typical.

 

[Guest 1551]

What is the actual height and diameter of the bottle? Your estimate of 16-18 inches is far from typical.

You're right. 10 1/2 inches. Lol. I was waaaaay off. Lol

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[GatorBoy]

I might have a Top hiding in here for you :-)

 

[Guest 1551]

I might have a Top hiding in here for you :-)

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I have a couple bases that need necks Lol

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[valleyglen]

Nice reconstruction job, from its shape and base, it looks like a sand chip pontil, bottles made before
1850 would most likely have a open pontil, It if it was found in FL. I would say it's english and
more like 1860's. But it's hard to date something from pic's.