help identifying small pontiled bottle

[JOliver80]

its a long shot but can anyone help me identify this bottle. I dug a few of these small pontiled bases today and then one that actually had a little more of the bottle and now I'm curious to know what these are. All that is visible are the last 4 letters "rth's" and then an "E" or "F" from the word below. either way I think I'm in a good spot hopefully they aren't all broken ...super thin glass though.

 

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[bottlehunterofcoscob]

I don't have an idea, but talk about a nice spot! Show us what you find.

 

[JOliver80]

today I found a bunch of green AM Bininger Co London Dock Gin pieces tops and bottoms as well as a bunch of those little pontiled guys. The dump has a ton of bottles but a low rate of survivors. They built a new road and I think when they did it pushed the dump outwards. Only dug for a couple hours today found some local pharmacist bottles, Moxies, common meds...all the best were shards of course

 

[bottlehunterofcoscob]

That's just how it goes right? Well best of luck to you!

 

[masterjedi]

I know bottles... What kind of Pontils? Please post pics of the Pontils....

 

[RelicDude]

Unfortunately most dumps I come across are like this with no survivors. But I would give that spot another look the potential is high for a nice piece to come out. How old are the moxie bottles?

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[JOliver80]

Open pontils here's a pic of the bottom. Everything seems to be 1880s-90s. The Moxie nerve foods are blown crown tops.

 

[masterjedi]

They stopped making open pontil bottles in the mid 1860's... they went to a snap case mold so no more pontil marks after this time period...

 

[JOliver80]

They stopped making open pontil bottles in the mid 1860's... they went to a snap case mold so no more pontil marks after this time period...

I am fully aware of that but that doesn't answer my question

 

[JOliver80]

ohhh I see what you were saying I meant that everything besides the few POntiled bottles are 1880s-1890s era

 

[t_web610]

Hey JOliver80. Sodabottlebob started a thread "EARLIEST KNOWN CROWN CLOSURE SODA BOTTLE" that you may find interesting. It will help you put a date on the Moxie bottle. Hope this helps. cool looking bottle!

 

[valleyglen]

It's most likely an small cylinder shaped medicine, not a soda...

 

[valleyglen]

Any bottle before 1860 would have some type of pontil, snap cased smooth bases are 1865 and after.
The three types of pontiled bases are open, iron, and sand chip. Sometimes an old smooth
base will actually be a sand chip pontil that was left in the annealing process too long.

 

[Harry Pristis]

My, My! So much information, and so mis-leading. The annealing process for glass is simply slow cooling -- how can that affect the pontil scar? There are lot of bottles without a pontil scar made before 1860 -- who can tell Glen about some of those bottles?