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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories & Everglades Lost Gold

    Quote Originally Posted by mindspark
    Flying closer he saw the remnants of cabins. It took him 3 days by airboat to find the place and when he did, he found Confederate stamped "CSA" items left behind. This was supposedly the last camping place.
    Its possible that the relics found were that of deserters. I would like to see them first hand some day. I talked to a fellow whose father was a game officer in those days and says his mother still has some of them.

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    Concerning the 20 mile bend. The Indians have their Green Corn Dance out there on the full moon in May. That is where they spend a week feasting, fasting and rituals. No white people are allowed unless "invited" It is the celebration of when they were forced into the Everglades by the Army during the Seminole wars. They were being hunted, so they traveled by night on a full moon. They couldn't start fires at risk of being found, so they ate green corn. That is what it is all about. They take panther claws and scratch their shoulders. This lets out the bad blood. If you ever see a Miccosoukee, check out his shoulder for the scratches. It is a rite of passage.

    I was invited back in the 80's to go to one by my friend who was white and lived with them. Had a few Indian wives and a bunch of kids. He lived at 20 mile bend for awhile. So he says for me and an English friend of mine to meet him out there. So I go out and walk into about 700 drunk Indians dancing around a huge fire. I kept asking if anyone had seen my friend. They didn't even know who I was taking about. (A lot of the Indians came from upstate for this) It started to get real uncomfortable. Two white guys and 700 drunk Indians remembering what the white man did to them, forcing them into the swamps to eat green corn and suffer. Just when I was thinking of what I would look like without hair I recognized one of the Indians I used to drink with and he told me that my friend went back to the reservation to sleep because he drank too much. He told me we could join them and offered me a beer. So we did; drinking out of quart budweiser bottles all night. But, even in spite of being with a friend, it was quite uncomfortable, so we left after many beers.

    The hammock they hold this on is called Hunter's Hammock. It is inside loop road on the left just before 20 mi. bend. You can google it and see the line of hammocks that run from the SW to the NE inside loop road. Hunters Hammock is in the NE section of the loop. Those hammocks have been used as villages, camps and celebration grounds for years. Just better keep an eye out... rumor has it that the Skunk Ape is around in that area.... and that is another story for another post.


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    Man, the stories are just popping into my head tonight. Here is another one. About 4 years ago I was visiting my in-laws in Okeechobee, Fl. My brother in law needed me to help me move some furniture. So he gets one of his friends and we go driving to do the move. So this guy is a resident, dumber than a stick, good ol' country boy. So I start questioning him about Fort Drum. And he just starts off rambling on about when he was 17 back int the 70's he had a metal detector and found a case of Confederate money. The only way he found the money he says was that he detected the metal handle that was all rusted. He says he got a big stack of Confederate bills and took them home. He asked his mother about them and she told them they weren't worth anything and wasn't real money, so he threw them away. Someone shoot me please....

    The location is on private property, somewhere east of 441 at Fort Drum. He was detecting around a dead oak tree. A big one all rotted out he said. It is stuff like this that keeps me going. Because one day I am going to stub my toe on the corner of a big box full of gold coins.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    Was your friends name Wally? I know Corn Dance and Hunters Hammock. I have walked the whole line of hammocks stretched down the Loop. I just got confused about 20 mile bend. I thought that was the first bend closer to Miami. The 40 mile bend is Loop Road.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by mindspark
    Man, the stories are just popping into my head tonight. Here is another one. About 4 years ago I was visiting my in-laws in Okeechobee, Fl. My brother in law needed me to help me move some furniture. So he gets one of his friends and we go driving to do the move. So this guy is a resident, dumber than a stick, good ol' country boy. So I start questioning him about Fort Drum. And he just starts off rambling on about when he was 17 back int the 70's he had a metal detector and found a case of Confederate money. The only way he found the money he says was that he detected the metal handle that was all rusted. He says he got a big stack of Confederate bills and took them home. He asked his mother about them and she told them they weren't worth anything and wasn't real money, so he threw them away. Someone shoot me please....

    The location is on private property, somewhere east of 441 at Fort Drum. He was detecting around a dead oak tree. A big one all rotted out he said. It is stuff like this that keeps me going. Because one day I am going to stub my toe on the corner of a big box full of gold coins.
    That sounds like cattle money. Fort Drum is big cattle country. The Confederates bought almost all their beef from Florida. When the war was over the ranchers sold their beef to Cuba and where paid in Gold doubloons. They often buried them next to oak trees.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by SWR
    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by sabre15
    Try convincing SWR!
    Dont even try because SWR has already made up his mind. He is entitled to his opinion, but he will not be of any help in this quest.



    Ask and you shall receive! This is a good example of not giving up. These posts are readily available on Google and the other search forums. You never know who is lurking incognito and may decide to help if you keep asking. Its a small world. TN is about sharing and this is a good example.
    Not any help?

    No, I will not take you by the hand and lead you to the treasure. However, If something has the discusting taste of a poorly conceived fantasy treasure, tightly wound around skewed history and illogical thinking, I'll toss a yellow flag upon the field of play.

    There should be a five yard penalty for failing to recognize fantasy treasure tales.
    I am not saying I believe you nor am I saying I dont believe you. I am letting it play out. I want to hear what anyone and everyone has to say about this old legend while they are still alive. Many of the original treasure writers of this story are dead. Most of the participants of the "last campsite" discovery are dead. Sabre will leave this post and I my Swamp Gold post active and see what will become of it. There are some interesting finds and stories that may or may not be connected with a gold shipment or maybe it has been exaggerated which is not uncommon.



    I enjoyed reading your posts mindspark. One thing Im curious about. Do you still have the map photo and have you considered selling it on ebay.

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    Big Cypress Hunter - You are right Hunter's Hammock is just north 40 mile bend. I don't know what I was thinking.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    I once read an interesting story but I would have to search for it. Its was about the last remaining pirate alive. He was about 100 or so living on an Everglades island when a writer went to interview him and write his story. He went on to confess many murders and how he captured a Spanish princess and held her captive on a deserted island until she died. He hid all her jewels but never could find them again. Something like that. He even named the location. If I could find my map I would remember the island. Have you heard this one? You never know what you can find poking around in those mangroves at very low tide or after a hurricane. When a tree gets uprooted, it pulls up a lot of dirt.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by SWR
    Have you read the book Flight into Oblivion?

    OK Ill check it out. But I dont care if they were transporting a ton of gold or a bag of coins. I want to find out all I can about what the Confederates were doing in the Everglades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Quote Originally Posted by SWR
    Have you read the book Flight into Oblivion?

    OK Ill check it out. But I dont care if they were transporting a ton of gold or a bag of coins. I want to find out all I can about what the Confederates were doing in the Everglades.
    they were hiding silly sorry couldn't resist that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindspark
    I don't have any actual documentation on this or any of the KGC caches in the Everglades. I tried to locate the records once back in the 80's. The University of Miami Library has the complete official records of the War Between the States. It is over 100 volumes. I spent a whole day and got burnt out trying to sort through it all and ended up getting locked in at closing time. They shut the lights off and I was on the 7th floor (I think it was the 7th) and ended up having to be escorted out.

    All of this cache is rumor and speculation. I would really like to see the official records.
    But you never know what you will find in the search. For instance I was following a lead about a guy who found a sword on a hammock. The guys son worked with my friend. So I drove to Davie, Fl from Miami and talked with him. A Cuban fellow who had a 5 acre spread up there and was using the sword to cut off chicken heads. My friend annealed it and brought the blade back to almost perfect condition. Then he kept it in the house. It was dated 1716 with a brass handle. I offered to purchase it but he refused. Handling that sword got my blood pumping. He couldn't recall where he was but he was out hunting with friends and he sat down on an oak limb in some unknown hammock, shuffled his feet in the leaves and uncovered the blade. Why can't I be that lucky?
    me too , but like you said you never know what or who was below your toes a few hundred years ago
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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    It very easy to get lost in those swamps. It wasnt until 1842 when the first white man ventured into the interior. Its extremely easy to get lost even today with no landmarks and few roads. I never heard anyone use the word "afraid" but I suppose its possible they were hiding. My guess is they were more concerned about surviving. And they would have to be very resourceful to have survived in such a hostile environment, in the middle of nowhere, far from any coast. If they had anything valuable, it does not surprise me at all that they would choose to bury it before being captured. (according to legend)

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    They may not have been lost, only the gold. lol

    Thanks for the link I will read it. I found another KGC version with a map.



    Knights Of The Golden Circle Cache

    There is a story that some folks raised over $50,000, others say as high as $200,000 in gold coins for the Southern cause during the Civil War. The money was supposed to be shipped to England and a Confederate blockade runner was waiting for the gold at Jupiter Lighthouse. The officer in charge of getting the gold there was a Major Reynolds. According to the story Union forces were too close and he took his command deep into the Everglades and found a small island that once was a plantation. It was here that the gold was supposedly buried until things were safer to move to it. For whatever reason the gold was never moved and the location was lost. Many years later a pilot spotted an island while flying over the Everglades. He thought it look like the trees were growing in unnatural rows and so he planned a return to the site. He led a group to the location and there found old rifles and other items identified as Confederate origin. The treasure however was not found. Treasures buried by the group known as the Knights of the Golden Circle, have both their believers and those who doubt the South had much gold left at the end of the Civil War. Whatever the case, the searching continues for these caches of treasure yet today.

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    Re: Confederate Gold-Stories of others and any Help with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by SWR
    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter

    I found another KGC version with a map.
    That story sounds oddly familiar
    The names and places in this version may match your research Mr. O. I dont have time now, I gotta go out.

    Thanks again for the link SWR. Very interesting.

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    BCH, what do you think about us getting a helcopter and do some air recon? And look at some areas?

 

 
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