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    Re: The Dalton Gang's last robbery

    Quote Originally Posted by tropicalsue
    Could any money be buried in a grave??
    I have often wondered the same thing. My bet is that there are a fair number of "graves" scattered around the U.S. that either don't hold a single bone, or where the bones share space with someones cache. What better place to stash something for later retrieval ? Easy to find, well maintained spot, etc. Plus 'planting' a cache in the space of a freshly dug burial site would leave no conspicuous "fresh digs" to give the location of your goodies away. But which ones..........................

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    Re: The Dalton Gang's last robbery

    Yes, There is an old black man in Louisiana, that found a sizable amount of gold and silver in a slave coffin back in the 1960's. I have cache hunted with him many times back in the early and mid 90's, but due to work, I have not seen him in about ten years now. The way he found the coffin was from tales handed down by his slave ancestors.
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    After he was captured, Emmitt Dalton stated that between the 5 members of the gang to attempt the Coffeyville job, they had a total of $900. The Dalton brothers wanted to leave the country, so Bob decided to do one last job at Coffeyville. He figured hitting two banks early in the morning would get them a good haul. Afterwards, their brother Bill sued the city to try and get his brothers' possessions (and the $900) from the city.

    Since the City of Coffeyville buried the Daltons in Elmwood Cemetery, it is unlikely any loot is buried in any of the graves. The immediate family (mother, younger siblings) had left Coffeyville for Kingfisher I.T. in 1889. Several siblings had also moved to California prior to the brothers turning outlaw. Emmitt bought and had a stone placed on the outlaw's graves in 1931. Their older brother Frank, a US Marshall killed in the line of duty in 1888, is buried nearby.
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    Frank Dalton was killed in 1887, not 1888. For some reason, I cannot edit my own posts...

    The Dalton's camp site along Onion Creek was supposedly found a few years ago. Actually, the site is about 2 miles upstream (NW) from where the creek joins the Verdigris River. It was extensively searched at the time, hit HARD with metal detectors. It was all gridded out with surveyor's tape, and about a dozen hunters with high-dollar equipment, including two-box deep seekers, and GPR. All that was found were bits of rusty fence wire, tin scraps, and a flat, football-sized sandstone rock with the initials "R.D." and a heart carved into it. While it is documented that Bob Dalton's saddle was decorated silver heart conchos, there is no way to actually authenticate who carved on the rock. NO, THE DALTONS WERE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE K.G.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutBack Duo View Post
    (the following 2 paragraphs were taken from Gunslinger.com domain name is for sale. Inquire now.)

    On July 14, 1892 the gang made its last train robbery at Adair I. T.. Once again the train was loaded with deputies, but the gang was so quick and quite with their work that the marshals didn't realized the train was being rob until the job was almost completed. Unloading from the train the marshals engaged in a fierce but brief gun battle with the bandits. During the battle an innocent bystander was killed and another one wounded. the bandits would escape unharmed with an undisclosed amount of cash.

    After the Adair robbery the Gang split up and went their own ways. With the law on their trail, the Dalton boys figured to make one last robbery and get enough money to leave the country. A plan was devised to rob two banks in the same town at the same time, thus getting enough money to leave the country, and also go down in history by accomplishing something that no other outlaw gang had ever attempted. The perfect town for the robbery was Coffeyville, KS, the Dalton boys old home town.

    If you were going to rob 2 banks in Coffeyville, KS what would you do with any money/gold you had on you.? Would you take it into town with you or would you cache it the night before and come back for it after the robbery?

    The reason I am asking is because I know where the Dalton's camped the night before the attempted robbery in Coffeyville, KS.? A friend of mine ownes the property and has given me permission to search it.? Researching the best I can, I can't find any stories of any buried caches but since they were getting ready to do this last robbery and then leave the country what do? you think they did with their money,did they take it with them, or did they leave it somewhere so they could come back for it after they made their withdraw?? My research didn't mention them being killed with a large amount of money on them.]

    Three months passed between the two robberies. That would be plenty of time to make a stash in a safer place farther from the TP I would think. You know what they say about crapping too close to the TP! Sounds like a fun place to look regardless. Good Luck!

    L.C.
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    The Daltons robbed four trains after returning from California in 1891:

    In May of that year, they hit a Santa Fe train at Wharton (now named Perry), and got a few hundred dollars.

    In September, they robbed a MKT ("Katy") train and made away with $10,000.

    June 1892 found them at Red Rock, I.T, where they managed to net another "couple hundred dollars" from another Santa Fe train, mostly from robbing the passengers.

    The well-know Adair robbery, the following month, is of some dispute. MKT Railroad officials claimed there was no money in the express car, as they had been forewarned of the Daltons' attempt. In his memoirs, Emmet Dalton claimed the take was $17,000. He goes on to describe how the gang went through that money quickly, (divided among the 8 gang members present at Adair) buying new clothes, guns, saddles and other essentials to prepare for leaving the country after making their bank-robbing debut in Coffeyville.

    Emmet claimed that of the five men who rode into Coffeyville that morning of Oct 5, 1892, they had a total of $900 between them. After the robbery debacle, brother Bill Dalton sued the City of Coffeyville for the personal effects of his brothers, which had been seized by the city. Among the property claimed, he listed "$900 cash".
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