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  1. #1
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    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Can anyone tell me when they started stamping caret markings on gold ? I have a soft gold cross that was found on a beach with 10 pearls and a diamond in the middle. The piece looks spanish.

  2. #2

    Mar 2003
    So. Cal.
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    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    I can't, but I'd sure like to see your find. Can you post a pic of it?

  3. #3
    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    Picture of Cross

    Here's a picture of the front of the cross. This was found on a remote beach without the aid of a metal detector. Over 20 years ago, when I was in this area I was told of gold coins that washed up on the beach after a storm.

  4. #4

    Apr 2003
    Inland Empire, CA
    GTI 2500
    106

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Wow!! That is nice! 8) Have you ever beeen back to that same beach with a MD? -Robert-
    Is that a jewel encrusted bottle cap?

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    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Robert, I haven't been back with a metal detector yet, but I do have one of my sons down there at another site. He should be checking out that remote beach in the next week or so. If he finds anything, I will post an update.

  6. #6
    ca
    Apr 2003
    Princeton,BC,Canada
    Whites GMT
    193

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    O M; That is a beautiful find. I really do wish your son and you the best of luck on your search. Fred
    Quondo Omni Flunkus Moritati

  7. #7

    Mar 2003
    Dunmore, Pa.
    92

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    OUTSTANDING!
    Diggin The Trash :-)

  8. #8

    May 2003
    583

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Wow! Take it to a jeweler and let us know what he says!

    I have seen pictures of some of the older Spanish pieces with pearls, (look in the older Nat'l Geographic shipwreck issues) and usually the pearls are dissolved over time, so this piece may not be that old. Pearls are soft and may be ground down by shifting sand. Another indication of age is how the stone was cut. Diamonds are very hard and only within the last 50 years has the modern 'Brilliant' cut been perfected. A jeweler could tell you whether the stone is genuine, and might have some idea of when it was cut based on its form.

    You asked when they put karat markings on gold-- that tradition was started by the Spanish for bullion bars at the assayer, who used Roman numerals to denote karat purity. This wasn't applied to jewelry until much later (late 1800's), when standard alloys began to replace pure gold which is very soft. That doesn't mean that karat markings always appear on gold-- even these days of mass production a few pieces make it out of the factory unstamped.
    "...and then I will finally be able to take over the world!"?
    - Brain, in 'Pinky and the Brain'

    ? ? -- Rattus Labyrinthicus

  9. #9
    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Thanks for the advice. Sometime this week, when I'm not working, I will take it to a jeweler and get back to everyone.

  10. #10

    May 2003
    583

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Thank you for that correction, Dell Winders. I wasn't aware of hallmarks applied to jewelry before 1850. Perhaps it was an English adaptation?
    "...and then I will finally be able to take over the world!"?
    - Brain, in 'Pinky and the Brain'

    ? ? -- Rattus Labyrinthicus

  11. #11

    Nov 2003
    27

    HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    http://www.center4jewelrystudies.org/

    The British Hallmarks date back to the 13th century. Current research indicates that the reasons for the hallmarks were to assist customs officials in preventing the export of precious metals from England. Gold and silver were struck with the same marks until 1798 when a karat marking was added for gold.

    http://www.pamelaspearls.com/Hallmarks-British.html

  12. #12

    Aug 2007
    Tesoro Tiger Shark; Aquavision 2007
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    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Good to see another ex-operator on the site. Sounds like you may be in Florida. I'm a member of Chapter 85, Special Forces Association out of Stuart Florida. If your'e not already, think of joining - good people.

  13. #13
    us
    Jul 2004
    California
    404

    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Hmmmmm....did you take the picture down? I do not see a picture of the cross on my computer. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  14. #14
    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    I didn't take the picture down. I don't know who did.

  15. #15
    us
    Jul 2005
    Texas
    Garrett GTAx 1000 and Whites MXT
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    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    WHERE'S THE PHOTO OF THE CROSS...CAN'T SEE IT !!!! PLEASE REPOST IT..THANX

  16. #16
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
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    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    I dont see the picture of the cross either.......
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  17. #17
    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
    639
    2 times

    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Sorry guys and girls, I gave the cross to a movie producer friend of mine in California. I'll contact him and see if I can get him to send me a picture to post.

  18. #18
    us
    Jul 2004
    California
    404

    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, please do. A lot of us would love to see this treasure.

  19. #19

    Jun 2008
    6

    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    Found this pic in an old file is this the picture that you are looking for
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  20. #20

    Jun 2008
    6

    Re: HELP I.D. Solid Gold Cross

    One would need to know the approx area where it was found ( upper east coast, Florida etc) before you could start to find out more about it, also after a storm or heavy surf?

 

 
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