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  1. #76
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    Looking for that ONE find.

    Nov 2005
    South Central Kansas
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    Re: The Offer

    Well well I am confused Franklin. You speak of the value of all your research to get a share of the loot and then say getting zero is better than getting less than 1/3. So which is it. Your time is worth something or it's not. By the way who pays taxes on this property the owner or you. You better get on your knees and pray he takes that deal. Your cache hunting will not fair well unless you find a sucker. Just my opinion. I will say good luck to you and works out.

    Burdie

  2. #77
    us
    I deal in reality

    Mar 2010
    Maryland
    XLT , surfmaster PI , HAYS 2Box , VIBRA-TECTOR
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    Re: The Offer

    9 acres is not hard to search? WE are not talking about a park with nice cut grass. This is an overgrown farm with falling down structures, rolling country complete with rattlers. No one lives on this property.
    Now picture this, some one wants you to look for a cache on 9 acres of overgrown snake infested land. They don't know the form or location of the cache.For all you know, it could be thousand dollar bills in a wooden box. I have done this before and believe me it isn't easy. I sometimes wonder about people that come up with, " It is easy". I live on a farm, I know what 9 country acres looks like and it is not easy ! Now as far as the land owner is concerned. He doesn't metal detect or he wouldn't have asked for 50/50.. So he has no TH experience, no research experience in tracking caches, He doesn't have a clue about the story connected to the cache, so in effect he is left in the dark and I am the light switch.
    He has two choices, fumble around in the dark or sit back and relax and wait for me to hand him the $50K.
    I don't know where some people get the idea that he will find it. Frank

  3. #78
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    Dec 2010
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    Re: The Offer

    Frank after re-reading this post it looks to me as if you have only contacted this person a couple of times and those contacts were by mail and email. Have you ever met him face to face? If you haven't met him go chase your other treasure leads. Did you actually tell him that a 1/3 cut may be worth 50 grand?

  4. #79
    us
    Mar 2010
    Florida
    ACE 250,AT PRO, CZ21...RTG pro scoop...Stealth 720
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    Re: The Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Scar
    Lookingdown, you sound like a person that has never negotiated a deal.
    Let me spell it out for you....I think the 50/50 is a good deal.

  5. #80
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    Dec 2011
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    Re: The Offer

    Frankn,

    It sounds as if your not hurting for money. So if that being the case I agree with you. Let him stew in his own juices. He'll be back to you when he tries and fails. Good luck brother.

  6. #81
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    Dec 2010
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    Re: The Offer

    Lookingdown a good deal is the deal you are happy with. The best deal is the one that has been negotiated down to the best possible terms by an expert.

  7. #82
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    May 2011
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    Re: The Offer

    If he agreed to 50/50 I would take it, I know if someone told me there was a cache on my land I would tell them to get the hell off my property and find it myself. As of now you are the only one who is losing out since you put the effort into researching it. If you keep pushing him you are setting yourself up to losing the 50% you could of had, hows that going to feel knowing you had the chance to make something off your research but greed lost you everything.

  8. #83
    us
    I deal in reality

    Mar 2010
    Maryland
    XLT , surfmaster PI , HAYS 2Box , VIBRA-TECTOR
    7,846
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    Re: The Offer

    Burdie, I will try to get it across to you.
    -Your research & hunting time is worth nothing until you find the cache, then it becomes priceless!
    -To me it's a matter of principal. I can't see the owner getting more than me.
    -TRUE, he paid the tax on his property, but you can bet your sweet a..ss he didn't pay taxes on the $150,000.
    -Have a nice night while you think about that one.
    PS, I don't think Franklin knows where it is either. Frank

    Scar, briefly, 2 times, letter and E Mail
    Face to face, NO
    I research until spring
    He is just 1 of 3 in my lineup Frank

    Lookingdown, Spoken like someone that has not paid his dues, That is sweat equity. Frank

    Hay, I have opinions also and as you can see, I don't mind expressing them.

  9. #84
    us
    I deal in reality

    Mar 2010
    Maryland
    XLT , surfmaster PI , HAYS 2Box , VIBRA-TECTOR
    7,846
    1937 times

    Re: The Offer

    Scar, that's true. It isn't over till the fat lady sings.

    Bayter, I can tell you are an original thinker or a fisherman.

    Henry 2, It's easy to see that you didn't put the sweat equity into this one.
    There is an old saying," don't count your chickens before they hatch".
    Frank

  10. #85
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    treasurelagoon.wordpress.com

    Jun 2010
    East Coast Florida
    An older blue Excal with connector, remote, Skullie headphones, and various coils. Got rid of the rest of my machines.
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    Re: The Offer

    Frankn,
    Just out of curiosity, you have negotiated these type deals before and actually found sizeable caches from these efforts, yes? If so, then you must have a pretty good feel for what you're doing, yes? And if not, then why not appriciate the many differnt points of view that you're getting as that is what you asked for, yes? Hey, I wish you all the luck in the world, despite my personal opinion on the subject.
    "The key to finding gold is finding places where it can be accessed."

  11. #86
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    May 2011
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    Re: The Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankn


    Henry 2, It's easy to see that you didn't put the sweat equity into this one.
    There is an old saying," don't count your chickens before they hatch".
    Frank
    You ask for our opinions but it seems as if you have you mind already made up, I wish you the best of luck.

  12. #87
    us
    I deal in reality

    Mar 2010
    Maryland
    XLT , surfmaster PI , HAYS 2Box , VIBRA-TECTOR
    7,846
    1937 times

    Re: The Offer

    Henry 2, It amazes me how many people will sell themself short for a little profit. I stated that I would never accept less than the land owner. I was looking for alternate presentations to achieve my goal of an equal 3 way split. There is a catch 22 factor that I won't disclose that might be used to leverage my way through this, but it is a last resort. Frank

  13. #88
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    Oct 2009
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    Re: The Offer

    No, you asked our opinion about the 30% division and then you complained about the responses.

    We don't care what secret info you have, you either reach an accord with the land owner or throw away the time you have already spent in research. Do whatever you want, you dont really care what anyone else says.

  14. #89
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    Dec 2010
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    Re: The Offer

    Frank, from what I have read, I would say this property is in Texas. If it is in East Texas then you are close to me. The game of the trade is the most fun part of the deal for me. It is easy to up the anty to 50% but harder to drop it to 20%. I would suggest dropping the anty but that will take some negotiating skills. I have done this deal many times. I really don't think that you should cut the landowner more than 25%. Lots of the folks here on TNet are detectors and will answer with areas they have searched by getting the go ahead with a handshake deal and a 50/50 cut, some just look for open fields and the like but the few that take the time to do the research are the real treasure hunters. I could see me working for a treasure hunter for little to no compensation or just a coin. I am not a treasure hunter but a story teller and would value my stories as a better treasure than the gold.

  15. #90
    us
    I deal in reality

    Mar 2010
    Maryland
    XLT , surfmaster PI , HAYS 2Box , VIBRA-TECTOR
    7,846
    1937 times

    Re: The Offer

    Hay Jason, from watering the tree to Tigger. That's quite a change.
    What you don't understand is I value everyone's opinion, but I have to stir the pot to get some fresh ideas. No one is right or wrong here. There are just personal ideas. It's like jobs, some will work for less than others. most people know what they are worth doing a certain job. When I spend a little time on a story and swing my coil a little and find a small cache that time is not worth as much as spending months on research and driving hundreds of miles to check facts before even getting the detector out. Just think about it.
    By the way you should try a positive post with real facts once in a while. Check my posts, I have given out a ton of information and locations and I try to help the new guys. Frank

 

 
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