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  1. #121
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    Re: The Offer

    Stick with your 1/3 offer plan

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    Re: The Offer

    I am with you Frankn! You did the work, you can walk and let him sweat, if it means little to you, I have little respect for someone that wants to make big profit for little effort.

    That being said, You would receive 8% less apiece, (you and your partner), that does not seem like that much less. Maybe you could get the person with the biggest share to fund the backhoe rental, lunches, or possibly even the Gratuitous quantities of beer it will take to lube the joints each day in your toils?

    Good luck in your endeavors. I love walking away from ungrateful people myself. But I am kind of a jerk (in my own lovable way)!
    Thomas Paine-
    "Government even in its best state is but a necessary evil," Paine wrote, and "in its worst state an intolerable one." Like many Americans today, Paine believed that government added insult to injury by using tax dollars in ways that were actually harmful to the public. "When we suffer," wrote Paine, "or are exposed to the same miseries by a government which we might expect in a country without government, our calamities are heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer." To Paine, "securing freedom and property to all men, and, above all things, freedom of religion," were the only legitimate functions of government. Americans generally agreed, and went to war to achieve this vision.
    http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=233

  3. #123
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    Re: The Offer

    Spart, Is that the kings fifth or Wild Turkey ? We both enjoy it because we both understand each other. I usually go for the midline scenario. No matter how it turns out I am always at least 1/2 right.

    Poor hunter, I only like the banana ones so we are all right.

    Dogpound you forgot the greed factor.

    Calisdad, Yes, but only if the dogs do all the diggin.

    Nuggets, Like glue

    Dave 44, It's probably less than 2' down and I know all the markers. I don't drink beer, but many pounds of French Roast will vanish. When I work a cache, I stay on site with my MH so the meals will be great and cheap.

    Frank

  4. #124

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    Re: The Offer

    9 days since your 1st post of the offer,not much time has passed,but in
    55 days it will be spring 3/20/12 so....

    i think if the LO hasnt responded in 20 more days i would check up on the offer
    20 more days would make 30 days,and a month give or take a day,seems like a
    reasonable amount of time,for the LO to mull over the offer,and if his response
    is still 50/50 and you say no,or if he says no looking at all,,i would bet he is
    trying to investigate the cache,and he prob will investigate and search, until
    fall/winter and prob without finding it.
    by then he may come around to your offer,as you say time is on your side, even
    though you may not get to look until spring of 2013,and i wouldnt give him any
    more info on the cache,only that you have been successful in the past,if he dont
    bite,oh well there are more cache to be found,if he doest lose your addy,someday
    he may see it your way,and give you a buzz
    luck and HH

  5. #125
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    Re: The Offer

    cw0909, I sent my card with the first offer. I have no doubt that he has it on file. There are many factors involved here that I won't mention for obvious reasons. If I don't get a reply from him before spring, I will repeat the same offer with more motivators and then let it ride. As I mentioned, I have other projects with higher monetary incentives. Frank

  6. #126
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    Re: The Offer

    SUMMARY TIME
    Here's what we have so far. I think Sam8 must be a pro at this. His logic line is the closest to what is actually happening. This is basically the logic line.
    -Disbelief
    -greed and distrust
    -validate and build trust
    -Greed should fade with trust
    Well The disbelief only lasted a few days followed by greed and apparently a touch of distrust. The distrust is the hard part to overcome. I will try to overcome this by sharing a little info about the actual form of the cache.

    The story gets a little complicated as I realize the location marker for the cache is not on this property. Boundary lines change over time as property is subdivided so I might have to deal with two property owners.
    This week, my partner and I have both been burning up our computers on research and utilizing out side research help. I am about to present an offer to the other property owner. It will be a i/3 split offer same as the other. It's amazing how the onion layers build up. Frank

  7. #127
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    Re: The Offer

    Complicated isn't the word for this hunt, insanity is.. That coupled with some poor math

    Let's see, the cache may be on landowners #1 property, and the markers are on landowners #2 and yet you will make another 1/3 offer to the second landowner..

    OK I get it, it's like saying that I'm 1/2 Greek, 1/2 German, 1/2 Irish and the last 1/2 is English


    If I were you, I'd drop this hunt for a bit and regroup your thought's. After all, you have larger fish to fry

  8. #128
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    Oct 2009
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    Re: The Offer

    Wait..... if you have to involve the other neighbor to use his property to find the cache on the first property, doesn't that make this a 1/4 split all the way around (since you insist that every person involved gets an equal share?)

    What share are you planning to give to the members here who have helped you in your decision making? You did come ask for input didnt you?

    Edit- Sparticus beat me to the post!

  9. #129
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    Re: The Offer

    Jason in Enid, you will learn you have to get up pretty early in the morning to slip one past me

    That and I'm up all night

  10. #130
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    NJ

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    Re: The Offer

    Ok...I'm reading between the lines here but I assume this is what Frankn is saying...please confirm when you get a chance.

    He is not sure if the actual cache is on contestant #1 land or contestant #2s land. So he will make the offer of a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 offer to both and depending on where it is located then that land owner gets the 1/3. The nice thing about the dual offer is that if markers are on one persons land and the cache is on the other and they both accept the offer to split the cache depending on where it is found then Frankn gets free access to the marker even if it is not on the current cache property.

    If I'm mistaken and Frankn is just offering everyone 1/3 no matter what then it is insane but although I don't always agree with Frankn I know he thinks things through.

    Good luck

    NJ

  11. #131
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    Re: The Offer

    spart it's always easier to give up, but more rewarding to stick with it. The math looks good when you know the whole story. Frank

  12. #132
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    Re: The Offer

    N.J. Hunter. Your assumption is correct. The agreements will clearly state a split if the cache is found on their property. Frank

  13. #133
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    Re: The Offer

    Well Jason, I see you don't understand a split, And you were the only one here with his hand out. Does that tell something about you? Frank

  14. #134
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    Re: The Offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankn
    Well Jason, I see you don't understand a split, And you were the only one here with his hand out. Does that tell something about you? Frank
    LOL I don't have my hand out, and wouldn't dream of taking any of your imaginary cache. I'm just stating a point. You say you want everything equal, as long your part is more equal.
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  15. #135
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    Re: The Offer

    I would think the fellow that would pay 10 grand to someone to search for treasure on his property based on a phone call and email of a complete stranger would be nuts.

    I made this post after only looking at the first page didn't realize there was a second page.

 

 
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