Give example of treasure found.

[MDnoob]

Isn't it amazing how many people had so much money that they just had to bury it??!! If even 1% of the treasure stories were true, there would be an amazing amount of treasure out there, and you would think that some of it would have been found.

So: I am interested in hearing of one instance of treasure truly being found. Nothing at sea, shipwrecks don't count. Jars of coins don't count either. I am talking about one of the "Joe-Blow-from-1881-who-robbed-a-bank and-buried-it-but-was-shot-before-he-could-recover-it-tresasure-map" stories. Or one of the "Old-timer-who-knew-of-indian-goldmine-and-came-into-town-with-baseball-sized-nuggets" stories.

I love the stories, and I want them to be true. It is certainly more fun to believe them.

Or any legend/treasure story. One of these found and thus proven to be true would be interesting. With all the leads and stories and map dowsing and grandfather's maps and signs on rocks and blah blah blah, I hope to hear at least one confirmable story of treasure found.

[Rich in Texas]

It may be hard to get someone to talk about that kind of find. It could open you up to being bothered by everyone from the government to someone who feels they have a claim. Folks I know would keep something like that to themselves and carefully sell small portions over time. Just my opinion
Rich

[MDnoob]

Hmm. Still no examples. I am getting more and more skeptical...

[Larry KS]

Try reading Shadow of the Sentinal by Hillbilly Bob Brewer.

[Buck]

I thought it was Pure B.S. still waiting for a reply from him Buck

[Chiz]

Gotta agree with Rich on this... Unless it was a "funded" or "licensed" find, you are not going to get anyone to tell you anything, unless of course they are lying or an idiot... Almost like being a great hacker..... you want to tell, but would probably wind up in jail.....

8)

[alec]

A year or two ago there was a man in Utah who found a fairly substantial cache of Spanish gold, I believe it was all bars. He made a point of making a website and posting photos of himself with the gold and told the story of how it was found. I no longer have the link to the page but you can do a search for Spanish Utah gold and see what you find. The link to the website was at one time on this forum.

As you can imagine, most of us would not consider a website with photos of us standing next to gold a very bright thing to do so don't expect it to happen very often.

There were also three older men in Arizona several years back that found three caches of gold, thought to be Incan, in separate holes. It was all gold bars, I beleive the published amount was 183 pounds. This was published in one of the treasure magazines, again, with photos of some of the finders and the gold.

[cptbil]

MDnoob:
:shock: I can and will show you a couple of treasure sites!
I can/will first aquaint you with the Stories/legends (actually the "Facts", but since you don't believe :roll: in "reading" material as factual))
Are you willing to go ?
It appears that you don't believe anything in "reading", so let's take a trip!
I will be starting out sometime this coming April!
Depending on the weather!
I will be returning
I am scheduling trips to NM, Ariz, So.CA., No.CA., Nev and....
So!
PACK UP :!:
I figure the only way is for you to go out and see for yourself!
That is unless, you aren't really serious about making/proving yur claims and just want to sit around and complain !!
When can YOU BE READY?
APRIL thru ??

[boomer]

mdnurd, you and eddie should get together. you and he can become more and more skeptical together. what a person finds is there busness. why are you and eddie asking all those guesitons, are you-all with some government agency. this would be a good way to get people to talk about there extra income. HMMMMM
guys, this bothers me. why so many questions.

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

A quick read of the IRS publications reveals that ANYONE who reports a tax cheat is awarded 10% of the amount recovered. What they don't say is that the person then gets audited for the rest of their life and their estate after death on the grounds that if you know a tax cheat you are a tax cheat. Some of them actually get busted for not claiming the reward they got from the government. Now that said no one will reveal anything they have recovered. The best that you can hope for is that someone will refer you to a newspaper article. You could find the stories yourself by looking in the index to the New York Times under treasure trove and read all the articles about all of the treasures found in the United States and world over the past 200 years. Siegfried Schlagrule

[MDnoob]

Pretty impressive paranoia there Boomer.

Anyway, I think that anyone on this forum has found a treasure. Nor do I think that if they did, they would report it. Additionally, I don't think that an IRS agent would troll metal detecting forums looking for people bragging about treasure they found. God, I hope our tax dollars aren't being spent on something that dumb... I am talking about historical cases of old treasure legends being proven right, and found.
I don't doubt that some treasures have been accidently found, but were there legends/stories about them? What I am talking about is ones that were actively searched for and found. For example a treasure story like the many which can be read of on here where one can say CASE CLOSED - Treasure Found - Stop Looking.

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

Refer to three books by Karl von Mueller Treasure Hunters Manual #6 listed 25 treasures. Treasure Hunters Manual #7 revisited them and revealed who and how most of them were recovered. In Waybills to Eldorado he listed a number of fresh stories and within months some of them were recovered. Also available is They Found Treasure by Burgess. I have not read that one. Siegfried Schlagrule

[alec]

If you want a story to verify of a large treasure found do some research on Victorio Peak. This was originally found by a civilian and then stolen by the government. Stories abound about this treasure.

[cpt_peewee]

10-4
And here's another good example:
State of Florida -vs- Fisher (1977?)
That's when a bunch of lawyers and bureaucrats decided to treasure hunt the easy way. That along with several other cases is why recoveries do not get publicized.
Who wants to do all that hard work just for someone else to lay claim to the prize. And if it's more than a tin cup of clad, someone will try to take it. (Sometimes less!)
PW

[Lowbatts]

Most of the coastal states have shown their true colors. They sided with academics and the prosepect of easy revenue long ago. Academics being "professional historians/archaeologists". Knowing some archies, it is impossible to think that this country did not take a huge step backward somewhere. There were these guys that emptied a ship of tea in Boston for less a long time ago. We defnitely have a bad case of nobility in the land of the free.

Consider the case of most of the world's most famous archaeological sites. These were almost all located by treasure hunters, not archies. Last twenty years or so science has come up with some great tools for archies to use in their quest for sites including satellite photos in IR and other ground mapping technology. That should not be their exclusive domain, but it's cost is prohibitive to some.

That said, way too many of the greater and more well-known "treasures" are either bunk or long gone. So too are many of the lesser reported treasures. Consider some of those you read about. Let's say $80,000 in gold/silver from an army payroll in the 1850's or earlier lost near some then remote outpost. Yeah right. A paymaster and company going to a fort with maybe 300 troops to pay them out, each soldier earning a wqhopping 5-10 bucks a month. The figures just don't add up. So many of those treasure tales are pure nonsense.

And that said, there are many more treasures left untouched or still buried in smaller amounts that I have no doubt just the land-based buried goods can be well over a small fortune to even to an army of TH'ers! So many more treasures lost to misfortunes of accident or nature in both small and large amounts as well.

I have a an old hobby, it's collecting old journals, family pics and diaries. I have them going back to the 1860's. Some note tragedies, some note losses. Some note interests and places for get togethers. None are spectacular but all are valid leads. More than I can chase down in a lifetime. It's somewhere to start and if I find it, you'll read about it. It'll be mine legally.

[Lowbatts]

Almost forgot to mention, the books are themselves treasures. The stories inside tell of snowstorms and days w/o indoor plumbing, building houses for the cost of a tent today, etc..

I live behind a public school and can tell you, the kids back then knew how to write legibly and could spell better than our average forum member by fifth grade.

[Teprock]

:lol: Hey folks,

I was wondering, how much treasure have you found in your lifetime? I once found gold in Pennsylvania and stayed up all night thinking about my finding! I dream of the day when me and my best friend Marky strike gold and become rich. Am I California Dreaming or can this actually happen? Oh yeah, I once found a one ounce Abe Lincoln gold coin, which I gave to my friend because it was wet and smelled like tuna (big mistake)LOL.

[Lowbatts]

Hey Johnny Walker I know I get defensive all too often, but I have yet to recover any treasure of any size. I have lots of gold and silver, jewelry and coins all found TH'ing/MD'ing, but as too any individual treasure of large proportion, it ain't happened.

Don't know that it ever will either. There's a guy not far from here that states he pulls in about 50k to 80k a year metal detecting. I can believe this from the coinshooting/park hunting I do. But that's a specialized type of hunter. The guy who sold me my last two detectors was involved in the Milwaukee Milk Can treasure, nearly 1000 lbs. of silver eight feet deep in old farm milk cans. This story was featured in WE & T issue sometime back. You've heard or perhaps seen of the Goat Doctor Treasure among others that are well documented recoveries.

There is a long list of hidden caches that have been recovered, but just like the Atocha when found by Mel Fisher, how many people were looking for it? Contrast that to treasure noise such as the Lost Dutchman Mine, The Beale Treasure or the Confederate riches and the reality is if you do a lot of searching, and check out the old leads then you may come across something spectacular. But it won't be one of those big name treasures.

Maybe go to England and find one of those Roman or later treasure hoardes. But the chances are very slim it will be a treasure "legend" you recover. Why would I think that a thousand TH'ers before were too stupid to find it and I have some magical insight?

To date the actual caches I've found would fill your pockets with coins, if they weren't real deep pockets. I am just now considering the possibility that full-time TH'ing may be something I want to do, after years of passive TH'ing followed by years of MD'ing. I suspect it will be years more before I find the trail of several treasure leads I have uncovered, none of which have ever been show cased or documented anywhere. Don't worry, when I do find it I'll tell you about it, the IRS too when it becomes their business.

[Lowbatts]

Thanks Johnny Walker,
I'm currently working on my Hero Jr. robot, it's a 1982 model Heathkit that is one of the prized among robot affecianados. Thinking about giving him an overhaul and a new brain. In a school yard he could roam and spot for me, with a MD attachment, then I could detect and determine if I want to dig. That's a hairbrain scheme but one I'm working on in the near-term. (less than six months or scrap it and move on)
Shorter term than that, I decided to see if I can turn an old Edu-Science kids detector into a valid pinpointer. I've removed the coil and found it has a co-planar concentric configuration that I will have to provide a suitable miniature replacement for if it is to work. It also seems to be constructed in the simpler two-part config with the coil tx/rx circuitry in the coil and nothing more than a hybrid trans radio for the control housing so there will be more mods to come.
That's the end of my treasure story for today. Now where's the pics of your pop's silver cache? That sounds more like it! If you have any conventional photos, you could scan 'em in and post 'em!

Us secret gov. agents would like to have that proof! Speaking of which, I have about as much faith in three letter orgs to even know how to scan the breadth of the internet as I do in the possibility that catfish will fall from the sky.

[MDnoob]

YES! Do show up pictures of the silver cache! (Wringing hands greedily) We here at the IRS know all about you sneaky treasure hunters who find large amounts of gold and silver on a daily basis and never report it to us!! I haven't spent the last year cultivating this "metal detecting novice" persona for nothing! The IRS pays me $45,000 a year just to surf treasure hunting forums searching for you evil tax evaders which we know are so, so common!!! We will get you yet.




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