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Aug 15, 2008, 10:07 PM
#1
Question about a depression
While knocking around with my son in a heavily wooded area just yards away from Pensacola Bay, I found an extremely unusual feature on the ground. An area about 10 feet across in a near perfect circle was depressed into the ground about 2 feet. There have been no homes in this area in recorded history (I searched land records at the library). This spot is high and dry on a slight bluff with giant live oaks, pine, etc.
I guess my question is, since there is no history of human construction in this area and no evidence of any sink holes, what could have caused this depression? Could there have been something buried deeply under the ground and it collapsed causing the depression? Worth digging out? The soil is nearly 100% sand.
Thanks,
Pcola
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Aug 16, 2008, 10:22 AM
#2
Re: Question about a depression
My best guess would be just that...a sink hole.
If the ground is almost all sand, there's a good chance the underlying rock is sandstone which erodes quite easily. A lot of caves are formed in Sandstone, linestone, etc.
I've seen a new home constructed once and right in the back yard, once he was done excavating, was a huge fissure in the sandstone that had been covered by soil. It wasn't wide but ran about 30' long. Not exactly something I'd want near my house...on a hill.
Another possibility, it could be a spot where a big tree toppled over, roots and all...and has rotted away leaving the impression in the ground. Years of rain and whatever has smoothed it out to look the way it does.
But there's nothing to say it isn't man made either. Could have been a root cellar for some hermit or local Indians.
You got nothing to lose but a little time satisfying your curosity. Poke around in it and see what you turn up...keep us posted.
Al
I think...therefore I am.
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Aug 16, 2008, 12:46 PM
#3
Re: Question about a depression
I'd look into it. You just never know.
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Aug 16, 2008, 02:04 PM
#4
Re: Question about a depression
Thanks for the replies. A sinkhole is out of the question for this area. You have to go about 800-1000 feet before hitting any limestone or sandstone. Most of my area of Florida is sand over semi-permeable clay. The overturned tree theory is pretty plausible but the very fine sand surrounding the depression would have filled in the hole rather quickly and there is absolutely no remains of a tree - a fallen live oak tree can remain on the ground for decades before decaying to oblivion. I'm starting to like the root cellar theory (mainly because it's the sexiest theory ).
Next time I'm over that way I'll definitely be taking my MD and a shovel. You never know.
Thanks again,
Pcola
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Aug 16, 2008, 04:21 PM
#5
Re: Question about a depression
circular may end up being a large meteorite strike. siegfried schlagrule
"We have done so much; for so many; for so long; with so little; that pretty soon we'll be able to do anything; with nothing at all."
my unit motto - 138th Aviation Company - 224th Aviation Battalion - Phu Bai, I Corps, Republic of Vietnam - 1972
Siegfried Schlagrule
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Aug 16, 2008, 09:12 PM
#6
Re: Question about a depression
Or moles, maybe . . . lastleg
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Aug 16, 2008, 10:52 PM
#7
 It's mine now
Re: Question about a depression
Luck affects everything. Let your hook always be cast; in the stream where you least expect it there will be a fish.- Ovid
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Aug 20, 2008, 05:07 PM
#8
Re: Question about a depression
maybe use a long probe before digging to feel around
The only easy day was yesterday
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Aug 20, 2008, 05:34 PM
#9
Re: Question about a depression
While probing if it pulls back, abandon search.
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Aug 28, 2008, 07:50 AM
#10
Re: Question about a depression
Kip Wagner found one of these and it was a Spanish salvage camp site.
MD it. Then sift it.
Keep us posted.

"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." — Friedrich Nietzsche
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Oct 01, 2008, 12:37 AM
#11
Re: Question about a depression
Did you ever make it back?
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Oct 01, 2008, 08:52 AM
#12
 "WP"
Re: Question about a depression
I'd like to know what you've found... let us know if you find anything by detecting. 
Bran <><
Rom. 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
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Oct 02, 2008, 10:00 PM
#13
 ayuh !
Re: Question about a depression
live oaks huh...sounds like it would be in, around or near solid ground...maybe it was made by the indians ?...just a stab...hh
beach bum ! golf bum ! one way or another i'll be a swingin !
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Oct 03, 2008, 10:57 PM
#14
Re: Question about a depression
If this is an area where trees are growing, the depression may be the remains of a rotting stump. As the stump rots below ground, the dirt sinks down. I have several from old trees in my yard.
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Oct 15, 2008, 01:11 AM
#15
 da book worm--researcher
Re: Question about a depression
several thoughts* it might be a filled in fresh water well *--there were fresh water wells dug at spanish salvage camps in 1715 several feet deep to get good water to drink --it might be one of those type of diggings --- by the way it was actually * kip wangers dog actually found the spring * he was with kip when kip was out looking for the salvage camp site --kip "noticed" the dog drinking and went and checked it out * --(bet the dog got a steak that night. ) -- also it could be something or some one or a group of someones buried there so take care when digging . good kuck --- Ivan
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Oct 21, 2008, 04:46 PM
#16
Re: Question about a depression
This is the way old timers searched for caches:
They used a long spear and punched the ground with it...
When the spear sinks easily in the ground, that is spot.
To protect our hobby, always fill the holes you dig.
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Oct 24, 2008, 02:00 PM
#17
Re: Question about a depression
Well, I know I was 'poking' around several sites, and all of a sudden, the ground got real soft, I mean like nothing but air there...?
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Oct 24, 2008, 04:10 PM
#18
 da book worm--researcher
Re: Question about a depression
grave or other hollow area -- find out which first.
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Jan 12, 2009, 08:04 PM
#19
Re: Question about a depression
If you don't probe, dig, or detect it, you'll never have a decent nights sleep Either that or be kicking yourself in the butt for the next 10 years for not checking it out
I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!
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Jan 13, 2009, 11:12 PM
#20
Re: Question about a depression
 Originally Posted by boogeyman
If you don't probe, dig, or detect it, you'll never have a decent nights sleep  Either that or be kicking yourself in the butt for the next 10 years for not checking it out 
A group of us went down to check out the area again back in October but we discovered that the land had been purchased from the railroad and was being privately developed :-(.
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