Can anybody exsplain mining claims,how they work and the cost of them?

[konnon6]

Can anybody explain mining claims,how they work?What you have to do to file a claim?How big your claim can be?Underground and on top of ground?
who you file with and how long can it last?Can the feds take it away from you?

 

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[golddigger14s]

What Is A Mining Claim


Types of Claims
PATENTED MINING CLAIM: A patented mining claim is one for which the Federal Government has passed its title to the claimant, making it private land. A person may mine and remove minerals from a mining claim without a mineral patent. However, a mineral patent gives the owner exclusive title to the locateble minerals. It also gives the owner title to the surface and other resources.
With a Patented Cailm: You own the Land as well as the minerals

UNPATENTED MINING CLAIM: An Un-patented mining claim is a particular parcel of Federal land, valuable for a specific mineral deposit or deposits. It is a parcel for which an individual has asserted a right of possession. The right is restricted to the extraction and development of a mineral deposit. The rights granted by a mining claim are valid against a challenge by the United States and other claimants only after the discovery of a valuable mineral deposit.
With a Unpatented Claim: You are leasing, from the government, the right to extract minerals. No land ownership is conveyed.

There are two types of mining claims, lode and placer.

Lode Claims: Deposits subject to lode claims include classic veins or lodes having well-defined boundaries. They also include other rock in-place bearing valuable minerals and may be broad zones of mineralized rock. Examples include quartz or other veins bearing gold or other metallic minerals and large volume but low-grade disseminated metallic deposits. Lode claims are usually described as parallelograms with the longer side lines parallel to the vein or lode . Descriptions are by metes and bounds surveys (giving length and direction of each boundary line). Federal statute limits their size to a maximum of 1,500 feet in length along the vein or lodge. Their width is a maximum of 600 feet, 300 feet on either side of the centerline of the vein or lode. The end lines of the lode claim must be parallel to qualify for underground extralateral rights. Extralateral rights involve the rights to minerals that extend at depth beyond the vertical boundaries of the claim.

Placer Claims: Mineral deposits subject to placer claims include all those deposits not subject to lode claims. Originally, these included only deposits of unconsolidated materials, such as sand and gravel, containing free gold or other minerals. By Congressional acts and judicial interpretations, many nonmetallic bedded or layered deposits, such as gypsum and high calcium limestone, are also considered placer deposits. Placer claims, where practicable, are located by legal subdivision of land(for example: the E 1/2 NE 1/3 NE 1/4, Section 2, Township 10 South, Range 21 East, Mount Diablo Meridian). The maximum size of a placer claim is 20 acres per locator .

This is just some basic info, there are a lot of claims on e-bay (be careful) most of the listing give a lot of good info.

 

[warsawdaddy]

You can purchase claims from $1000 to 1,000,000.From 1 acre to a 1000 acres.Location,location,location!There are usually some good claims in the Mining Journal.Try there website or get a copy from someone.

www.icmj.com

You need to be aware of the state mining laws also.Some require permits, some don't allow dredging,etc.

 

[Ant]

It would help if you read or at least studied the 1876 Mining Law as well as any changes. Then you can order the books on How to File a Mining Claim and the other one is named How to File a Patented Mining Claim the latter being hard to file now a days. These books are available at the Barstow or Palm Springs Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

You can also go to the BLM's LR200 program (Land Records 2000) to find filed mining claims and other information. For a mining claim to be valid the claim must be up to date and on file at the county Recorders Office. BLM records mean nothing unless the claim is up to date and on file with the County.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Also, you will need to check LR2000 and then double and triple check in the other places - LR2000 is still not updated correctly.

B

 

[konnon6]

Wow sounds over my head-what ever happened to the good ole days
where a pile of stacked rocks was a claim?Thanks for the info.

 

[mrs.oroblanco]

Naw - once you do it the first time, you'll "get it".

B

 

[garym94931]

i've been interested in mines, also, but mostly to search. mining itself is backbreaking physical work with little chance of much payback. but i found the following webpage that is somewhat interesting other than it seems to be put together by some whiner who thinks mining claims are unjust or something. they list actual people and their addresses who have claims. so be aware, any time you deal with government, your personal information is no longer very secret. if anyone else is interested in mines, i'm in san francisco. contact me.

http://www.ewg.org/mining/claims/owners.php?stab=CA&fips=06097

 

[Ant]

i've been interested in mines, also, but mostly to search. mining itself is backbreaking physical work with little chance of much payback. but i found the following webpage that is somewhat interesting other than it seems to be put together by some whiner who thinks mining claims are unjust or something. they list actual people and their addresses who have claims. so be aware, any time you deal with government, your personal information is no longer very secret. if anyone else is interested in mines, i'm in san francisco. contact me.

http://www.ewg.org/mining/claims/owners.php?stab=CA&fips=06097

It's best to stay away and out of abandon mines. They can cave-in, hold deadly gases, poisonous snakes and dangerous animals. Even walking near the edge of a vertical mine (coyote hole) can he dangerous, the edge can be undermined and when you walk up to take a look, and away you go.

Plus, what in the world would you want to go inside of an abandon mine for? I'm sure it was abandon because the gold ran out. They didn’t leave anything. But gold is where you find it. All you have to do is use any search engine and type in “abandon mine dangers” and you’ll see for yourself.

HH and be safe out there.

 

[garym94931]

you must have missed my post. i don't want to go INTO mines.. just browse around the area looking for old tools, etc., while being careful to avoid the openings ! i agree. they're dangerous!

 

[cptbil]

It is far more dangerous to drive out to an old mine than it is to just walk in


How many people have you heard of, being smashed into little bitty pieces inside of an old mine


NOW!
How many ten of thousands have you heard of being smashed into big squishy messes along/on a HIGHWAY?
Heck!
Now! They're even shoot'n each other along the Highways
ME! ~
I'll take the safety of an cool old mine anyday!

PS
I used to, in my college days, work in a copper mine in Az.
It was 5000' deep and the "wall rock" was a COOL!
164* after a fresh blast !
Guess how many miners were killed in that mine while I was working there?



Now!
Guess how many of the miners were KILLED on the highways during that time

 

[SushiDog]

This guy who made the post is being reasonable, however, some of the posts were very interesting to read....I am talking about the posts that seems to be from a pessimist with a very close mind....SushiDog