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    Is this authentic kepi?

    Is this an authentic Civil War kepi?

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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    I've been looking at period hear gear from that era and your's looks authentic and aged... it resembles mid to late 1800 slouch (kepi) hats but has a different construction.

    Here is one to check out while I keep looking for one that's closer to your in construction.

    There are three pics... and a pretty hafty pricetag too. http://www.themanualofarms.com/store...ct=329&image=2


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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Thanks Montana Jim!

    I plan to display it better at home!


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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    I'd think it was an original... until I knew for sure I'd treat it like an authentic era military uniform cap. As you can see, the value - or at least the price tag, is worth a few gallons of gas!

    The history chirper found of the unit is awesome... and may add value... too bad there in no name inside of it!


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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Pappagiorgio
    That has got to be one of the BEST pieces I have EVER seen ....

    Incredible & Righteous ... Nick
    Appreciate the comment, Nick

    Tim
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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    I agree with Jim 100%--this is an old piece, I'm almost certain. Quite a beauty!


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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Appreciate all the informative and kind posts.





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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Im skeptical...
    I think the obvious detail showing its modern would be the existence of vent holes on each side, right?
    Do CW caps really have those? Ive never seen one that did but I'm no expert here.
    Anyone?

    DH

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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    I don't think it is Civil War era...but maybe later 19th century. Civil War era clothes were hand made and hand stitched and this one is not. It is machine stitched and have reservations about the vents on the side as to Civil War era. Sorry, but I'd say DEFINITELY NOT Civil War Era. Even if made on an "Early" sewing machine the stitches are too neat and tight for that. There also does not appear to have any wear marks from the Regiment Emblem on the front.
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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    I keep thinking it looks more like another type of cap but can't place it...

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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    I keep thinking it looks more like another type of cap but can't place it...
    i have the same feeling on this...mexican? the cut is late 1800'...japanese that someone changed the buttons and badge?

    turn that sweat band inside out and see if there is a mark...?

  12. #12

    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    I keep thinking it looks more like another type of cap but can't place it...
    Almost looks like a pullmans or pursers cap on a train
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    After researching American military hats, I have discovered that this kepi is ca 1895, not Civil War material.

    Here is a linked page with photo and description:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

    Here is the source 8 meg file detailing and illustrating the history of U.S. uniforms; a wonderful resource! The link above was extracted from this web publication.
    http://www.history.army.mil/html/mus...survey_uwa.pdf

    see page 39 for my kepi.

    I am disappointed this kepi is not Civil War vintage, but I will continue treasure it, and will attempt to get more relevant history of the regiment.
    115 yrs old, and in great condition; wish it could talk!

    Thanks to all treasure net members who shared this exploration with me.

    ex animo!


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  14. #14
    pippinwhitepaws

    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    i would not be too disappointed...sweet cap, great period of American history...

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    Re: Is this authentic kepi?

    Quote Originally Posted by chirper97
    After researching American military hats, I have discovered that this kepi is ca 1895, not Civil War material.

    Here is a linked page with photo and description:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink


    The hat you linked to is not the same hat. Although it has most of the same details and is the same shape, its not the same hat.
    Spacing of things are quite different along with other dissimilarities if you compare. (BTW, I'm not referring to the brass insignia at all. That is obviously different and means nothing as I'm sure there were many used)
    The hat in this thread is likely a copy of the hat you linked though.
    Good detective work.
    DH

 

 
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