1) If you were looking down the length of the bayonet, were there diamond shaped or triangular? (see pictures)
2) What materials were CW bayonets made of (iron, brass)?
Thanks,
MM
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
Thanks guys.
I had found a diamond shaped length of steel at one of my CW sites this week and was hoping.
-MM-
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
All White's Detectors MXT and IDX_pro, ANY OLD DETECTOR WILL DO
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Re: Bayonet questions
WELL MM,
BOUT ALL I CAN TELL YA IS THE ONE I HAVE IS "STEEL" ABOUT 19" LONG, IN THE SHAPE OF A TRIANGLE WITH A SLIGHT CURVE FROM THE TIP TO HILT [/img]
LARGE BORE 69. CAL. ( 1816 ) FRICTION TYPE BAYONET WOTHOUT LOCK RING . THEY ARE NOMALY MADE OF STEEL . AND THERE ARE BRASS ONES , TOO. NOT SURE IF THEY WHERE USED DURING " CW "
Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals: TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes. Military Relics: Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals: TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes. Military Relics: Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
Could it have been a picket pin to hold your horse at night??
Could be...but the realist in me also thinks that's a tough sell, without the top part/ring attached to the dug piece.
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals: TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes. Military Relics: Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
Dang, It's really hard to get good pics to show the shape of a bayonet. The one I found is flat on the top and triangular with sloping sides on the bottom.
DKW,
Those pictures are just fine. Actually they show the actual shape very well. Thanks for posting those.
Awesome find by the way.
-MM-
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
OMG! i found one of those today the thing your pointing at! cool!
Originally Posted by ModernMiner
Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM
Is it it hope the pics arent too bad. Its the size of a golf tee.
Originally Posted by ModernMiner
Thanks for the info ML.
Man, you have quite the collection going there. GREAT relics!
Here is a picture if the piece I dug. I know CW troops camped on this property I detect at, so I was hoping any of these rusty finds were CW related. I'm pretty sure all the RR spikes I find in that flat field were used as tent stakes.
Thanks,
MM
If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.
If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.
RF,
That is great info. It's funny you should mention Austrian. I dug a .69 bullet at that same property a while back, and never got it ID'd.
Recently I ran it by a TN member and he mentioned it looked like an Austrian .69.
Attached are a few pictures. What do you folks think. Same bullet? Could this bullet be tied to that kind of Austrian rifle perhaps?
Thanks for any input,
MM
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
It was a mean time... diamond shaped or triangular were used because 1. strength and 2. the wounds don't close easy. Something to think about.
La Beep,
Thanks for that info.
-MM-
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
If you've found a diamond shaped piece of steel don't lose all hope!! The bayonets that fit on enfield and springfield rifles were in fact triangluar. The Confederate Government purchased a very very large number of Austrian Lorenz rifles that used diamond shaped bayonets instead of triangular. The socket was also different. Instead of sliding straight down on the front sight and then turning to lock the Lorenz bayonet rotates down on the front sight then locks.
I think I have a bullet like that somewhere?
RF,
That is great info. It's funny you should mention Austrian. I dug a .69 bullet at that same property a while back, and never got it ID'd.
Recently I ran it by a TN member and he mentioned it looked like an Austrian .69.
Attached are a few pictures. What do you folks think. Same bullet? Could this bullet be tied to that kind of Austrian rifle perhaps?
Thanks for any input,
MM
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