Eagle Wreath belt plate w/McKeever cartridge case

mspsarge

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I've posted this item on some different sites so it could be a repeat to some viewers...

In the early 1980's, this item was given to me from an individual who didn't want it any more. I was shocked he didn't want to keep it in the family. He stated he didn't want it in the house or his kids to find it. The individual was a total stranger and I was a young MSP Trooper working the front desk that day. He wanted us to destroy it stating we would know how properly dispose of it. Before leaving the lobby, he turned and said I could have it if I wanted it. What really surprised me was him saying it belonged to his grandfather originally. He offered no other information and gave me the paper sack containing it. I wasn't about to destroy it and i have it to this day.

It is a pattern 1870 McKeever cartridge case with attached leather belt. Affixed to the belt is a Civil War Eagle Wreath belt plate with the silver wreath still attached. The catch on the other end looks to be "field made" as the numbered match to the plate isn't there. Inside the cartridge case is an assortment of ammunition for several different calibers. The one 45-70 round I traded an ammo collector to get. The majority of the rounds are 30-40 Krag and some appeared to be tinned to some degree. The other calibers are foreign and I have been told the rig looks to be Spanish American War vintage. The cartridges have dates in the mid 1890's stamped on the ends. The case has no markings whatsoever as to its origin or arsenal.

Greg

1851 pattern eagle-wreath belt plate.JPG Copy of 1851 pattern eagle - wreath belt plate backside.JPG Copy of McKeever ammo.JPG McKeever case closed.JPG McKeever case open.JPG DSC03708.JPG
 

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Holy cow. I missed this pos. I have seen this buckle recently in "Todays finds" minus the applied wreath. It was used during the civil war as well and your guess on age seems correct. What a great gift and treasure to have. Thank you for sharing this find. I hope others drop in and see it as well. If you want specifics on it the "What is it section" here is always another good forum.
 

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sorry to tell you this BUT when the eagle's wings tips are ABOVE the wreath it is NOT an original buckle ...again sorry but it is true.... not original
Hanover Brass Foundry Reproduction Military Belt Plates sells that buckle (TG-E1 Enlisted 1863 Waist Belt Plate (Applied silver wreath) Circa 1863)
price 75 for brass and 85 dollars for red brass color
 

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sorry to tell you this BUT when the eagle's wings tips are ABOVE the wreath it is NOT an original buckle ...again sorry but it is true.... not original
Hanover Brass Foundry Reproduction Military Belt Plates sells that buckle (TG-E1 Enlisted 1863 Waist Belt Plate (Applied silver wreath) Circa 1863)
price 75 for brass and 85 dollars for red brass color
You are wrong. Check Harry Ridgeways Relicman site. He does not sell repos.
 

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I've posted this item on some different sites so it could be a repeat to some viewers...

In the early 1980's, this item was given to me from an individual who didn't want it any more. I was shocked he didn't want to keep it in the family. He stated he didn't want it in the house or his kids to find it. The individual was a total stranger and I was a young MSP Trooper working the front desk that day. He wanted us to destroy it stating we would know how properly dispose of it. Before leaving the lobby, he turned and said I could have it if I wanted it. What really surprised me was him saying it belonged to his grandfather originally. He offered no other information and gave me the paper sack containing it. I wasn't about to destroy it and i have it to this day.

It is a pattern 1870 McKeever cartridge case with attached leather belt. Affixed to the belt is a Civil War Eagle Wreath belt plate with the silver wreath still attached. The catch on the other end looks to be "field made" as the numbered match to the plate isn't there. Inside the cartridge case is an assortment of ammunition for several different calibers. The one 45-70 round I traded an ammo collector to get. The majority of the rounds are 30-40 Krag and some appeared to be tinned to some degree. The other calibers are foreign and I have been told the rig looks to be Spanish American War vintage. The cartridges have dates in the mid 1890's stamped on the ends. The case has no markings whatsoever as to its origin or arsenal.

Greg

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An interesting Thread.
Hmmmmmmmm.
 

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It is a nice buckle for a collection anyway. I use a buckle that I dug a few years back as my avatar. It is from the Indian Wars period. Stamped brass plate.
 

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