Real or Fake Civil War ID tag disc

redskinfan1

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Hello All ID Disc experts:
I feel I may have been burned on this item. I just purchased a Civil War Eagle ID disc. After reading The ID disc guide today by Joseph Stahl, and showing this to a local expert, I feel it has some problems. The alignment is totally off and, as stated in the book and by the expert, this should be treated with caution. Can you please let me know your thoughts on this disc? The alignment is completely opposite to the examples in the book on Eagle discs. The hole is also very jagged.
Thank you all for your time.
 

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d2

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The hole looks like it was made with a square nail. Other than that I have no idea if it is real or not. It looks good though if it aint...d2
 

CoilyGirl

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I hope for your sake its real.maybe you could take it out of the case and photograph it some more and one of the experts here can better help you.welcome to Treasurenet by the way.
 

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...The alignment is completely opposite to the examples in the book on Eagle discs...
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I have no idea what you are talking about - but, it sounds like where the hole is punched? If so, I did a quick search and found another disk that is close to yours (hole punch). Again, haven't a clue - just thought this might help...
 

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ronr

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Looks right to me. Found him in the History of The 14th Regt on line. Looks like somebody cleaned it too much at some point.
 

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redskinfan1

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Further clarification and Thank You

Thanks to all who responded. After reading the ID classification guide by Joseph Stahl, my biggest concern is where the hole is on the reverse where the name and unit are. On Eagle ID discs, the hole is to the right of the Eagle, which is correct on my disc. The reverse hole usually begins where the name of the soldier begins. In this case the hole hits where the name ends. The alignment is flipped. This may be just an error made by the sutler, and I hope it is, but the guide says to use caution if it is not correctly aligned as the location of the hole is prevalently located in the same location on Eagle Discs. The image from VPNAVY is a good example of what I am referring to on the disc. Am I just being paranoid?
 

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fyrffytr1

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What concerns me is the hole takes out letters in the name. But, I did find this info about your token's owner. Hopefully, it is the real deal.
Vermont Civil War
 

Zebco

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Maybe he broke the original necklace and had to open the hole for whatever he had to fit.Just a thought.
 

HutSiteDigger

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Can you post this in "What Is It" thread.. You will get some good answers! Thanks.
 

NC field hunter

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I know nothing about civil war relics. However, just going on my eye and what little common sense I have, I would say this is definitely altered. Who ever altered the hole could have done a neater job in my opinion. Why would one alter this fine piece? I'd think altering this piece to wear on a larger chain would be the only reason for doing so. Also, if I altered a piece to wear on a thick gold chain, I would want my alteration to look nice and original. Instead, as one posted above, it looks like a cut nail was driven through the hole on this piece. On a high note: I do not think this piece is a fake. Think about it. If a person made this piece with intentions of passing it off as authentic, they would have done a neater job on the hole. Those are my thoughts. I think you have a nice piece.
 

HutSiteDigger

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You are right NC Field.... This is not a fake! I told this member too bring this too a a well known Civil War dealer in Stafford,Virginia who is been in business for over 30 years and is probably the most knowledgeable person when it comes to ID tags and is credited in many Civil War artifact books. He concluded that this is a real ID tag!
 

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