Are these pieces of a sabot?

[Digalotajunk]

Found these pieces on a CW battlefield here in Mo. I think they are all part of a sabot, but no rifling as near as i can tell. Definitely lead. Any help would help.

 

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[Davers]

Found these pieces on a CW battlefield here in Mo. I think they are all part of a sabot, but no rifling as near as i can tell. Definitely lead. Any help would help. View attachment 1533754

I'm no Civil War artillery specialist , so.... the lead pieces "Look"as if they could be sabot pieces.

Measurements may be required .

Have any Iron Frags or Complete shells been dug in that area?

Hope you find out as I am curious myself.

Welcome to treasure-Net. & Good Luck.

 

[Digalotajunk]

Yes,i have found pieces of case or exploding shot in the area.
MAYBE 100 yards away from where i found this. I found those about 13 years ago, and the lead i found about 8 months ago.

 

[Peyton Manning]

now I'm going to have to google sabot

 

[Digalotajunk]

Done that TONS. The only one i hace found that looks like it, is from a 3 inch confederate read shell.

 

[alabama11]

I read online the sabots can be iron also. Anyone have an opinion on that information.

 

[Davers]

Yes,i have found pieces of case or exploding shot in the area.
MAYBE 100 yards away from where i found this. I found those about 13 years ago, and the lead i found about 8 months ago.

A good indicator that you have sabot pieces.

Looking Good Man.

 

[gsxraddict]

I don't see any evidence of rifling on the sabots.

I don't think they're tall enough to be Hotchkiss sabots and they might even be a little too think.

I don't think they're sabots but better pictures and measurements would help.

 

[Digalotajunk]

This is the one i found on google that looks like one of the pieces.

 

[gsxraddict]

This is the one i found on google that looks like one of the pieces. View attachment 1535367

No, because read sabots were not made out of lead, those in your first post look like lead.

 

[Digalotajunk]

I can take new pics. What measurements are needed? I dont have a comparator.

 

[Digalotajunk]

Just found this info on a 3400- britten shells & sabot. Not tryin to lead anyone to a conclusion, just presenting anything i can find for yall.

 

[gsxraddict]

Just found this info on a 3400- britten shells & sabot. Not tryin to lead anyone to a conclusion, just presenting anything i can find for yall. View attachment 1535378

Very doubtful those were used near Missouri.

You got lead bands off old pipes or something.

 

[Digalotajunk]

Good info on the lead pipe theory. If it was a pipe, it exploded in the middle of the woods. All 5 pieces were found inside an area of about a 1/2 acre. So, it's possible. I've found stranger thing!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Gsrxaddict is correct... your long curved lead pieces are from antique plumbing joints in cast-iron pipe. The plumber would first pack the joint with hemp fiber, and then melt lead and pour it into the joint. I was briefly a Plumber's Helper, and when we replaced ancient cast-iron pipes underneath 1800s/early-1900s era houses here in Richmond I've seen those lead pipe-joint seals in real-life. I am 100%-certain that's what your lead finds are.

By the way... the Sgt. Riker website is incorrect... the photos show the brass sabot from a yankee 10-pounder (2.9"/3"-caliber) Parrott shell. That is absolutely NOT a Read shell's sabot.

Also, Read shell sabots are most frequently wrought-iron, less frequently copper, and only a few made of brass. (Brass was scarce in the Confederacy, and so it was saved for making things which would get used more than once... an artillery shell sabot only gets used once and then it's gone.)

 

[Digalotajunk]

Thanks for your time & knowledge!

 

[Davers]

Thanks for your time & knowledge!

Sorry it did not work out for you.

Keep looking & you will find more Cool old & Civil War Era relics, it's getting tougher each day that passes.

When or if you already have dug some Civil War relics I would love to see them , so please post those KC MO Relics.