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  1. #1

    Sep 2005
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    CW bullets???

    I found these today on the Savannah River near a CW fort.I just moved here from S.FL so I never hunted CW relics before.Can someone id these for me??Thanks!!HH
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    Re: CW bullets???

    I don't know much about bullets but they look modern to me.
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    Re: CW bullets???

    Quote Originally Posted by diggummup
    I don't know much about bullets but they look modern to me.
    I agree. These are unfortunately modern.

    Buckleboy
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  4. #4

    Jul 2004
    North East Georgia Mountains
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    Re: CW bullets???

    I'm glad this question was asked. Could someone out there with some CW experience do an info post on correctly id'ing CW era bullets?

    Thanks!

    [glow=green,2,300][size=9pt]Kevin[/size][/glow]

  5. #5

    Sep 2005
    103

    Re: CW bullets???

    Thanks for the replies.I'll keep on hunting.HH!GL!!

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    Re: CW bullets???

    Why guys? Because of the flat base? I dunno...

    Put these puppies in the "What is it?" forum...

    I'm also interested in finding out a little more... what are they from?

  7. #7
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    Re: CW bullets???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevGA
    I'm glad this question was asked. Could someone out there with some CW experience do an info post on correctly id'ing CW era bullets?

    Thanks!
    This is not as easy of a question to answer as it seems. There are hundreds and hundreds of types of CW bullets, and since the advent of MDing, many more new types have come to light. The vast majority of bullets used during the CW were two and three-ringer .58 cal. bullets, which most folks on Tnet should be able to ID at sight. The others can be tricky. I would say that the biggest clue is the age of other finds from the same site. If you've dug a wierd bullet along with some .58's on a relic hunt, then you might have another variety. If you find your mystery bullet in the woods along with some clad it is less likely to be CW. Doesn't mean it isn't, just that it is less likely. So I would recommend that everyone get the book commonly referred to as the "bullet bible," McKee and Mason's "Civil War Projectiles." Get a copy and thumb through it frequently so that you know what you're looking for. This resource should be a part of your library if you live in an area with CW history. Same with the Tice or Albert button book. The internet contains long lists of types of CW bullets with photos(usually for sale). These sites are good too, but they are usually contain only the more common types.

    So that's as good of an answer as I can give.

    Regards,

    Buckleboy
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  8. #8

    Jul 2004
    North East Georgia Mountains
    265

    Re: CW bullets???

    Thanks, Buckleboy. I think I will add that book to my library.
    K
    [glow=green,2,300][size=9pt]Kevin[/size][/glow]

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    Re: CW bullets???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevGA
    Thanks, Buckleboy. I think I will add that book to my library.
    K
    Or you can go here and look at the many different varieties listed on this site just to give you an idea of what some of them look like-
    http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bulletsearch.htm
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    Re: CW bullets???

    The one on the right looks like a .38 wadcutter(for easier scoring on targets) and the one on the left I aint got a clue about but looks like it could be an older one...d2

  11. #11
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    Re: CW bullets???

    Hey Paleohunter, are you by Savannah or up the river furthur?

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    Re: CW bullets???

    i have one also like the one of the right. I forgot what they told me it was but it is old and it was from a cowboy type gun that was no longer made after 1919.

    If I can get some more info I will let ya know.
    Dawn
    MCALLEN, TX

  13. #13

    Sep 2005
    103

    Re: CW bullets???

    Hey AeroMike,I live in Savannah.I found those where they're doing rails to trails along 80 going to Tybee Island.

    Thanks Txkickergirl! Please do.I look forward to learning more about them.


    I appreciate all the replies..HH!! GL!!

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    Re: CW bullets???

    alrighty then they are cowboy bullets you know the old leaver action ones you see in the movies. Well apparently these bullets were smokeless instead of the black powder. you can do a search for meister bullets or cast bullets and should be able to pull up more info. They still make bullets like this today to shoot in the old guns.
    I found mine at an old army mule trading post with a variety of relics that date to that time so I would guess mine was not a modern and yours also looks that old do to the coloring.
    Dawn
    MCALLEN, TX

  15. #15
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    Apr 2007
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    Re: CW bullets???

    Paleohunter, I live in Rincon. Maybe we can get together some time and do some hunting. I was shown an area you might be interested in. The person who was with me found a really nice small white arrowhead with a couple minutes of us looking and just before the rain started. It is in Effingham county. If you are interested, email me.

  16. #16

    Sep 2005
    103

    Re: CW bullets???

    Thanks for the info on the bullets!!I came across a few more at the same spot and left them though.



    Aeromike, I'm emailing you!


    HH!!GL!!

  17. #17

    Aug 2004
    920

    Re: CW bullets???

    Well, first they are BIG as far as a lead slug goes, at least the musket rounds anyway. The pistol rounds are about the size of a modern bullet, but again, can look quite different than today's slugs. They usually have a whitish patina from years in the ground, but not always. You won't see rifling marks on the bullets. Sometimes you will find a 'nipple' at the top of the bullet which is where the ramrod deformed the bullet being pushed down into the barrel. Do a search on "civil war bullet" on google and you will find a load of pictures to look at. There are even some shotgun slugs used during the CW, but I have never found one, again they look different than a modern shotgun slug.
    Happy Tesoro user - Mid Missouri

 

 

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