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  1. #1

    Aug 2007
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    Samuel White killed by old munitions

    RICHMOND, Va. - A man who sold Civil War relics that included munitions was killed by an explosion, and residents of the neighborhood were kept out of their homes Tuesday as experts looked for more explosives.

    Samuel H. White, 53, was found in his backyard Monday by neighbors who had heard the blast, Chesterfield County police said.

    Police Capt. Steve Neal said that what exploded was military ordnance, possibly dating from the Civil War. Authorities found unexploded military ordnance at his house, and on Tuesday they were still collecting and detonating explosives.

    White's business, Sam White Relics, advertised various relics for sale including Civil War artillery shells, cannonballs and bullets. His Web site says he would "disarm, clean, and preserve your Civil War period and earlier military ordnance" for about $35 each.



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  2. #2
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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    This whole thing is so sad, but me not really living where I can dig civil war relics, my question is this.. how in the heck did he have so many? I know there were tons of big and small battles everywheres in the south.. arent most of the battlefields protected by law? either way, the whole thing is extremely sad and will remember his family in my prayers.
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  3. #3
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    Apr 2006
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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    Quote Originally Posted by bootybay
    .. arent most of the battlefields protected by law?
    From what I understand from the old timers here, you could detect on a lot of the major battlefields up until the 1960's and 70's.

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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    Quote Originally Posted by PimpLenin
    Quote Originally Posted by bootybay
    .. arent most of the battlefields protected by law?
    From what I understand from the old timers here, you could detect on a lot of the major battlefields up until the 1960's and 70's.
    The farm's I hunt at Antietam Battlefield are all private but they saw there share of the battle.

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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    News like this is always sad--but an equally sad thing is that the bomb squad will tear his collection apart confiscating items and destroying them.



    I've always said that folks that "unload" shells need to have their collection elsewhere--someplace the police can't get at it. If things are unloaded, then they're safe--and they're still the property of the collector.

    CW shells are still out there on private land--and most of them are relatively safe until you start drilling them.


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    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
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    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
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    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
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    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  6. #6
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    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    Quote Originally Posted by PimpLenin
    Quote Originally Posted by bootybay
    .. aren't most of the battlefields protected by law?
    From what I understand from the old timers here, you could detect on a lot of the major battlefields up until the 1960's and 70's.
    Most major battlefields are protected, but often the protected area does not encompass the entire field of action as civilman said. Also, there was plenty fighting between the big battles. Most of this land is privately owned and has been hunted for years. I have permission to hunt two small battlefield sites in my area. Even though they've been hunted many times, I still manage to pull relics out of the ground - although I've not found a cannon ball - yet. At least not a whole one...

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  7. #7

    Sep 2006
    jersey city new jersey
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    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    from what i understand Sam cleaned these as a side line usually he took great care in this case he drilled this shell out in an unsafe manor without the oil bath. He also had his entire collection seized by the powers to be.

  8. #8

    Aug 2007
    Glouster, Ohio
    White MXT
    506

    Re: Samuel White killed by old munitions

    Further Update with more details

    CHESTER, Va. - Like many boys in the South, Sam White got hooked on the Civil War early, digging up rusting bullets and military buttons in the battle-scarred earth of his hometown.
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    As an adult, he crisscrossed the Virginia countryside in search of wartime relics — weapons, battle flags, even artillery shells buried in the red clay. He sometimes put on diving gear to feel for treasures hidden in the black muck of river bottoms.

    But in February, White's hobby cost him his life: A cannonball he was restoring exploded, killing him in his driveway.

    More than 140 years after Lee surrendered to Grant, the cannonball was still powerful enough to send a chunk of shrapnel through the front porch of a house a quarter-mile from White's home in this leafy Richmond suburb.

    White's death shook the close-knit fraternity of relic collectors and raised concerns about the dangers of other Civil War munitions that lay buried beneath old battlefields. Explosives experts said the fatal blast defied extraordinary odds.

    "You can't drop these things on the ground and make them go off," said retired Col. John F. Biemeck, formerly of the Army Ordnance Corps.

    White, 53, was one of thousands of hobbyists who comb former battlegrounds for artifacts using metal detectors, pickaxes, shovels and trowels.

    "There just aren't many areas in the South in which battlefields aren't located. They're literally under your feet," said Harry Ridgeway, a former relic hunter who has amassed a vast collection. "It's just a huge thrill to pull even a mundane relic out of the ground."

    After growing up in Petersburg, White went to college, served on his local police force, then worked for 25 years as a deliveryman for UPS. He retired in 1998 and devoted most of his time to relic hunting.

    He was an avid reader, a Civil War raconteur and an amateur historian who watched History Channel programs over and over, to the mild annoyance of his wife.

    "I used to laugh at him and say, 'Why do you watch this? You know how it turned out. It's not going to be any different,'" Brenda White said.

    She didn't share her husband's devotion, but she was understanding of his interest.

    "True relic hunters who have this passion, they don't live that way vicariously, like if you were a sports fanatic," she said. "Finding a treasure is their touchdown, even if it's two, three bullets."

    Union and Confederate troops lobbed an estimated 1.5 million artillery shells and cannonballs at each other from 1861 to 1865. As many as one in five were duds.

    Some of the weapons remain buried in the ground or river bottoms. In late March, a 44-pound, 8-inch mortar shell was uncovered at Petersburg National Battlefield, the site of an epic 292-day battle. The shell was taken to the city landfill and detonated.

    Black powder provided the destructive force for cannonballs and artillery shells. The combination of sulfur, potassium nitrate and finely ground charcoal requires a high temperature — 572 degrees Fahrenheit — and friction to ignite.

    White estimated he had worked on about 1,600 shells for collectors and museums. On the day he died, he had 18 cannonballs lined up in his driveway to restore.

    White's efforts seldom raised safety concerns. His wife and son Travis sometimes stood in the driveway as he worked.

    "Sam knew his stuff, no doubt about it," said Jimmy Blankenship, historian-curator at the Petersburg battleground. "He did know Civil War ordnance."

    An investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms will not be complete until the end of May, but police who responded to the blast and examined shrapnel concluded that it came from a Civil War explosive.

    Experts suspect White was killed while trying to disarm a 9-inch, 75-pound naval cannonball, a particularly potent explosive with a more complex fuse and many times the destructive power of those used by infantry artillery.

    Biemeck and Peter George, co-author of a book on Civil War ordnance, believe White was using either a drill or a grinder attached to a drill to remove grit from the cannonball, causing a shower of sparks.

    Because of the fuse design, it may have appeared as though the weapon's powder had already been removed, leading even a veteran like White to conclude mistakenly that the ball was inert.

    The weapon also had to be waterproof because it was designed to skip over the water at 600 mph to strike at the waterline of an enemy ship. The protection against moisture meant the ball could have remained potent longer than an infantry shell.

    Brenda White is convinced her husband was working on a flawed cannonball, and no amount of caution could have prevented his death.

    "He had already disarmed the shell," she said. "From what I was told, there was absolutely nothing he had done wrong, that there was a manufacturing defect that no one would have known was there."

    After White's death, about two dozen homes were evacuated for two days while explosives experts collected pieces from his collection and detonated them.

    Today, there is little evidence of the Feb. 18 blast. The garage where White did most of his work is still crammed with his discoveries, many painstakingly restored and mounted. Rusted horseshoes are piled high in the crook of a small tree.

    White's digging partner, Fred Lange, hasn't had the heart to return to his relic hunting.

    "I truly miss him," Lange said. "Not a day that goes by that I don't think of him."
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