Mechanical cleaning of coins. My first steps.

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Coins before cleaning were humidified in the distilled water. (I recommend all copper coins found in the earth to keep in a hover at least days in the distilled water. It promotes removal from a patina of salts and alkali which destroy a patina and a coin.)
Coins were cleaned by the self-made shaber made of a sewing pricker. After cleaning of coins and polishing by a ball shaber, put a patina with sulfuric ointment. In Russia she can be bought from us in any drugstore. Then polishing about a carpet. Gently :)
Here that turned out.
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Nice job man,I guess I've been doing it wrong,mine don't turn out like that! God Bless Chris
 

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I occasionaly find the old Russkie coins from the 1800's-1900's too. I get World coins by the pound from my local coin shops.
 

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I occasionaly find the old Russkie coins from the 1800's-1900's too. I get World coins by the pound from my local coin shops.
if you want, I can help with definition and identification of Russian coins (the period of board of the tsar, a stamping place, a rarity)
 

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Sure..Once I get pics up I'll be glad to make a thread and show them and other coins, I have no doubt (since watching your video) that some of what I get in those pound lots are ground dug and brought in by metal dector hunters because they are so caked over with dirt and rust..Luckily for me EZest fixes them though it's very hard work,Sadly though some are very pitted, I only have 3 as old as the one in your video..I think they are from late 1800's-early 1900's but I have several U.S.S.R. coins. I think the OLD Tzar coins are copper or bronze but not sure..I also know they had some coins trhat was nothing more than wire mashed with a heavy mallet and stamped but I have yet to get these marvels.
 

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I only have 3 as old as the one in your video..I think they are from late 1800's-early 1900's but I have several U.S.S.R. coins. I think the OLD Tzar coins are copper or bronze but not sure..I also know they had some coins trhat was nothing more than wire mashed with a heavy mallet and stamped but I have yet to get these marvels.
if it is not difficult to you, take please pictures. I would like to see them
 

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if it is not difficult to you, take please pictures. I would like to see them

Here are some I have scanned and put on my FaceBook,Since I don't speak Russian I just labled them by what was stamped on the coins them selves,I did figure out that PYb/\b is Ruble though

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I'm currently getting ready to clean the others (if need be,some are decent as is) I will post pics afterward.
 

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Here are some I have scanned and put

1 kopek 1829 were minted at the tsar Nikolay I Pavlovich (1825-1855) on the Ekaterinburg mint. A material - copper.
5 kopeks 1932 Material: aluminum bronze. Good coin. Early Soviet period.
My congratulations! You have three coins of anniversary rubles. Not many foreign numismatists can brag of the same.
1 ruble 1966 was minted concerning 20 years of a victory over fascism. On a coin the monument to the Soviet soldier in Berlin (Germany) is represented.
1 ruble 1967 was minted concerning 50 years of the Soviet power. On a coin the monument to Lenin is represented. To the leader of revolution of 1917.
1 ruble 1970 was minted concerning 100 years Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. On a coin Lenin's head is represented. Leader of revolution of 1917.
other coins: 2 kopeks 1978, 20th kopek 1978, 1 kopek 1979, 10 kopeks 1981 and 1982. Typical coins of the USSR.
20 rubles of 1992. These are new coins of Russia were after disintegration of the USSR. Had value till 1997. Then let out new, modern coins. These coins left a turn and now aren't used. At that time there was a big inflation and for example in 1993 of a cigaret cost 150 rubles, bread cost 170 rubles. In the USSR, in 1983 bread cost 20 kopeks, and cigarets of 70 kopeks.
 

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I have 2 of this coin:
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The 2nd one however has some patina that wouldn't come off, But it still looks good so I didn't mess with it after the cleaning because I knew the only way that patina would come off was to scrape it and I don't scrape my coins because I don't want to scratch them up.

Wow..Well atleast you didn't suffer the inflations Germany did way back in the 1920's, They had to pay millions to billions for food and they printed so much money that it was essentially worthless then..Citizens found it easier to burn it as fire wood rather than buying actual wood..Now though this money is somewhat valuable due to it's uniqueness.

I know the Ruble and our Dollar was once even in the U.S.S.R. days..I don't know how close they are to our dollar now though.
 

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Ok here is some more of my Rubles I scanned, 1990 5 Ruble seems to be proof, When I found that in the 6 pound lot of World coins loose I was shocked..even more shocked that it had no scratches or even a finger print on it being loose and bumping against all the other coins bagged up by the dealer that day, So I put a shop towell over my hand to grab it and then holding it ONLY by it's edges, sealed it into a cardboard protective coin packet. The thumb print you do see in the scan is from handling the coin packet to scan the coin..It isn't on the coin the coin is immaculate :occasion14:. Just click the pics to make them bigger, For some reason they got resized when posted here.

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very good coins, especially 5 rubles coin. Cool!
1 ruble - an anniversary coin. It is let out for date of 30 years of a victory in WW2. Stamping date 1975.
On a coin the monument "Motherland" established in Volgograd is represented. The former name of the city - Stalingrad.
1 ruble - an anniversary coin. It is let out for date of carrying out 22 Olympic Games in Moscow of 1980. Stamping date 1979. On a coin space satellites, a monument to the Soviet cosmonauts (rocket), and an emblem of Olympic Games are represented.
1 ruble - an anniversary coin. It is let out for date of 20 years to flight of the first person in space. Stamping date 1981. On a coin the space satellite and the rocket, the first Soviet cosmonaut Yury Gagarin are represented
5 rubles - an anniversary coin. It is let out for numismatists. Stamping date 1990. On a coin the monument of architecture of the 15th century is represented: An Uspensky Cathedral in Moscow.
 

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Yesterday cleaned the find. Before cleaning on a coin there was a dirt, oxides, concrete or cement.

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today cleaning

At first, I used a tray with solution of lemon acid, for removal of green "emerald" oxide. Attention! This method can strongly damage a coin! Risk under your responsibility.
Then, I used electrolysis for purification of deep dirt. Attention! Sometimes after cleaning by electrolysis, on a coin the minor defects which are hidden and not seen before cleaning are shown

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Coins on the picture.
2 kopeks 1776
1 kopek 1883
1 kopek 1905
 

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Usually i dont clean coins with hard encrustrations.... i dont like electrolysis and im against that method. But i see you cleaned some coins very well.
Also depends which type of coin you are cleaning. I am mostly cleaning Roman coins and i use pure water and mechanical way. No chemicals or anything else. All coins with damaged patina are thrown in lots :)
 

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I'm doing it this way
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