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Dec 21, 2006, 12:46 PM
#1
cleaning indian heads
i have about a dozen ih's i have dug this year and they are all green.is there any way to get rid of the green without chemicals.Most of the im not to worried about but i have a 89 that would be au50 if it wasnt discolored.it is an even green over the whole coin so im not sure how much it reduces the value...any ideas out there ty and hh...jon
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Dec 21, 2006, 03:20 PM
#2
 My Find of a Lifetime!
Re: cleaning indian heads
I dont think there is anything yo can do about the green color without damaging the coin. I have used the Hydrogen Peroxyde method for removing dirt.
Here is the link to the post explaining the method I use: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,39135.0.html.
Good Luck!
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Dec 21, 2006, 04:11 PM
#3
Re: cleaning indian heads
But they need to be green. That patina is awesome and adds character!! If they are clean, but for the green, I say leave 'em alone. Shiney pennies should be new ones!
Just my 2 cents worth
~Nash~
Whatever it is, it is valuable. If nothing else for the lesson learned or simply the experience of having been there.
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:34 PM
#4
Re: cleaning indian heads
 Originally Posted by Nashoba
But they need to be green. That patina is awesome and adds character!! If they are clean, but for the green, I say leave 'em alone. Shiney pennies should be new ones!
Just my 2 cents worth
~Nash~
Totally agree.
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:36 PM
#5
Re: cleaning indian heads
 Originally Posted by Nashoba
But they need to be green. That patina is awesome and adds character!! If they are clean, but for the green, I say leave 'em alone. Shiney pennies should be new ones!
Just my 2 cents worth
~Nash~
I agree, if its old , it should look old.
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:39 PM
#6
 Supreme Chancellor
Re: cleaning indian heads
I would loooooooooove to able to get rid of the green as well. It would make these 90 indian heads I dug this year worth some actual money. I got some pretty good dates in what I found, but sadly being green takes any significant collector value away from them.
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:43 PM
#7
Re: cleaning indian heads
 Originally Posted by bscofield6
I would loooooooooove to able to get rid of the green as well. It would make these 90 indian heads I dug this year worth some actual money. I got some pretty good dates in what I found, but sadly being green takes any significant collector value away from them.
Do you want to collect them or find them? If you want to collect them then buy them, If you want to find them then appreciate the patination.
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:53 PM
#8
Re: cleaning indian heads
The only thing i would do is use the hydrogen peroxide method. I agree with Nash leave em alone green is good! Olive oil works good but i believe it leeches into the coin and it always looks greasy. Happy hunting!
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Dec 21, 2006, 05:56 PM
#9
Re: cleaning indian heads
I agree that's what gives it character
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Dec 21, 2006, 06:18 PM
#10
Re: cleaning indian heads
Use nothing but virgin olive oil and a denture tooth brush.It will leave the nice patina and all details will be seen.I once found a beautiful 1907 IH and every letter in liberty was detailed.I tried electrolysis on it and completly ruined it.
CZ-5
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Dec 21, 2006, 06:44 PM
#11
Re: cleaning indian heads
I agree, don't clean them. But if you have nothing to lose and really want to remove the patina, here's a link to one of my earlier posts. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,52620.0.html
In this post, I removed the patina from a Lincoln then gave it a fake one. Never do this to any coin of value, but it's a challenging experiment if you are up for it.
Silverseeker: Indian Wells Valley, CA
6000 Di Pro SL, M6
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Dec 21, 2006, 06:54 PM
#12
Re: cleaning indian heads
I soaked one in olive oil and a little dishwater detergent...Left it soak for a few days.....Rinsed it off a little and used a Q-tip to lightly rub some of the dirt off...came out beautiful...full LIBERTY
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Dec 21, 2006, 07:06 PM
#13
Re: cleaning indian heads
Silverseeker, you did an awsome job on that penny. I think I will give it a try. I dont think I could do it to an indianhead unless it looked as bad as the wheats I dig around here.
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Dec 21, 2006, 07:14 PM
#14
 Supreme Chancellor
Re: cleaning indian heads
 Originally Posted by dugfinds
 Originally Posted by bscofield6
I would loooooooooove to able to get rid of the green as well. It would make these 90 indian heads I dug this year worth some actual money. I got some pretty good dates in what I found, but sadly being green takes any significant collector value away from them.
Do you want to collect them or find them? If you want to collect them then buy them, If you want to find them then appreciate the patination.
Well it would be nice to be able to sell some of the finds. I'm not saying I want to collect them, I'm saying it would be nice if they weren't green so that if I ever wanted to sell some of my finds I could actually get some decent money for them.
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Dec 21, 2006, 07:24 PM
#15
Re: cleaning indian heads
I have never ordered anything from this company, nor have I ever used any of the products, but here is a site that sells stuff to clean coins.
http://www.kelgory.com/coincleaner.html
Mike
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Dec 21, 2006, 09:26 PM
#16
Re: cleaning indian heads
What turns them green ? I have found Indians, but they all have been deep brown. Now wheat cents are another matter, they always seem to be corroded really bad, or green.
Happy Tesoro user - Mid Missouri
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Dec 21, 2006, 09:28 PM
#17
 Supreme Chancellor
Re: cleaning indian heads
 Originally Posted by Gribnitz
What turns them green ? I have found Indians, but they all have been deep brown. Now wheat cents are another matter, they always seem to be corroded really bad, or green.
Soil conditions, water, weather, etc. That's my best answer, haha, sorry it's not too technical. All of the ones I find are green as are most old wheats.
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Dec 21, 2006, 09:46 PM
#18
Re: cleaning indian heads
I agree with everyone else, don't try to clean them, just be happy you can read the date. I think a little dirt left on the coin helps to read the date.
I also tell people not to try and clean 2 cent pieces, sheilded nickel's or V-nickel's, they turn to crap also. Most of the coins we dig are not going to earn you a lot of money. We just have fun finding them and enjoying them. If of course it is silver, well that's another story.
HH, Ringfinder
ACE 250, Whites XLT, Tesoro Tiger Shark, Depth Pro, Fisher 1235, Fisher F-75, Minelab Explorer II, X-terra 70
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Dec 21, 2006, 10:13 PM
#19
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: cleaning indian heads
Don't clean them. Your efforts will not improve the collector's value of the coin. Well said, T.Stag.
Buckleboy
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Dec 22, 2006, 12:17 AM
#20
Re: cleaning indian heads
Ok, I think I may (may) have found something new. I have been trying an ultrasonic cleaner w/ regular solution, to no avail - but - last night I was soooo fed up (with approx 10 coins, unknown value @ the time, due to complete "incrustation"), that I changed solutions. 3 turned out to be mercury dimes, 5 - 1940's silver Canadian cents, and 2 1960' quarters! All look brand new now!
In the ultrasonic, I used "ZEP-Tub & Tile Cleaner" (Home Depot), for approx 20 minutes, on Hi.
P.S. Guys, I don't recommend using your girls ultrasonic cleaner (trust me, she will not like it!)
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