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    Exclamation Should I clean NOVA CONSTELLATIO? On the FENCE!

    I am itching to go further with this coin...
    ...but very hesitant as well.

    Since finding it I have given it no more than a light brushing with a soft tooth brush.
    No water has touched it.

    Under the thin film of hardened soil I see strong detail on the front and a weak die struck on the reverse.
    There is a nice green patina and little or no signs of pitting or patches of raw copper showing through.

    I have heard arguments, both pro and con (but not on TNet), for further cleaning elsewhere.
    I have no intention of selling this piece so I'm not worried about preserving the 'out of the ground' state.
    I just want to reveal that 1783 on the reverse.
    I have had very good success in the past with Indian Head Cents and even Large Cents using a hot hydrogen peroxide soak and rub off of the soil film.

    What to do?
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    I would either use some of the Andre's pencils on it or leave it as it. If you use any liquid, including water, it's done for.

    How did you get my cat's picture stuck there?
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    I would leave it as is....Looks good to me
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    Do not alter the coin in any manner.

    If you must do anything in the of arena preserving and or cleaning, consider sending to the NCS.

    They state:
    From within a state-of-the-art secure facility, NCS uses a variety of proprietary techniques to remove harmful surface contaminants, stabilize and protect a coin’s surfaces, and improve eye appeal. The American Numismatic Association (ANA), the only coin collecting organization chartered by US Congress, and the Professional Numismatists Guild (PNG) have named NCS their conservation service of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    I would either use some of the Andre's pencils on it or leave it as it. If you use any liquid, including water, it's done for.

    How did you get my cat's picture stuck there?
    Hey, smokethecat. So many folks seem to have luck with Andre's pencils. I have yet to try them. I'm a bit hesitant of using anything abrasive.
    Shark Cat...I call it the Sh-at or the Sh-itty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by villagenut View Post
    I would leave it as is....Looks good to me
    Thanks, for talking me down off of the ledge villagenut...
    Quote Originally Posted by dognose View Post
    Do not alter the coin in any manner.

    If you must do anything in the of arena preserving and or cleaning, consider sending to the NCS.

    They state:
    From within a state-of-the-art secure facility, NCS uses a variety of proprietary techniques to remove harmful surface contaminants, stabilize and protect a coin’s surfaces, and improve eye appeal. The American Numismatic Association (ANA), the only coin collecting organization chartered by US Congress, and the Professional Numismatists Guild (PNG) have named NCS their conservation service of choice.
    Interesting suggestion, dognose. I would be afraid to ship it off anywhere though... Is it risky or expensive?
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    It would be worthwhile to call them and get more information.

    The regular fees are posted here
    https://www.ngccoin.com/submit/services-fees/ngc/

    I have a number of slabbed coins. Mostly higher grade civil war tokens.
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    Professional conservation from NCS is 4% of the coin's Fair Market Value (FMV) ($25 minimum) but some modern and gold coins are eligible for discounted services that provide both NCS conservation and NGC grading for a flat fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dognose View Post
    It would be worthwhile to call them and get more information.

    The regular fees are posted here
    https://www.ngccoin.com/submit/services-fees/ngc/

    I have a number of slabbed coins. Mostly higher grade civil war tokens.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomclark View Post
    Professional conservation from NCS is 4% of the coin's Fair Market Value (FMV) ($25 minimum) but some modern and gold coins are eligible for discounted services that provide both NCS conservation and NGC grading for a flat fee.
    Thanks for the links and advice, dognose and tomclark.
    Now that I've looked into it more this definitely is the way to go. I may ask a local coin dealer, up the road from work, to help me out so that I don't screw up.
    Last edited by Wildcat1750; Nov 05, 2020 at 05:45 PM. Reason: Text change last sentence



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    No don’t mess with it and don’t waste a nickel on any BS “ preservation “
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    I don't agree with gaspipe.

    It my view that a few dollars spent on good preservation, could reap dividends down the line.


    For example, if you store this coin in an manner which allows humidity or air-borne pollutants to contact the coin, this may promote or support the corrosion process, resulting in additional damage to the coin.


    You may store the coin in a flip. There are vinyl flips, non-plasticized flips, and saflips, and the safest types are made of an archival-safe material commonly known as Mylar. placing this coin in a non archival-safe material may result in the green looking patina and corrosion which could eat into the coin.


    I don't advocate submitted ALL coins found, but a rare coin like this is different.


    At minimum talk to someone which knowledge of the storage medium and take steps now to preserve it as, especially if you do not to be submitted to a professional conservation organization.
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