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  1. #91
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    I agree with IP and Don. If the button is not one where I have to see the backmark to determine if it is CW era or not, valuable or not, I use peroxide to remove the dirt and get to the gilding, and then aluminum jelly to brighten that gilding. I still try not to dip my 2 pieces in anything liquid if they are compromised or torn by the plow. So a combination of both methods works well. If the backmark is something that I have to see to learn about the button, I still use aluminum jelly first, then after the back is dry I toothpick the back.

    Regards,


    Buckles
    Thanks for the tips guys! I guess I have just gotten lucky lately, finding buttons with gilt left. I found very few in the past.

    On another note, I tried to clean this CW Scovill Navy button that I found on Saturday. The dirt is like concrete on this one. Do you think I am better off leaving it as is, or would repeat treatments of aluminum help?


  2. #92

    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil in West Jersey
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    I agree with IP and Don. If the button is not one where I have to see the backmark to determine if it is CW era or not, valuable or not, I use peroxide to remove the dirt and get to the gilding, and then aluminum jelly to brighten that gilding. I still try not to dip my 2 pieces in anything liquid if they are compromised or torn by the plow. So a combination of both methods works well. If the backmark is something that I have to see to learn about the button, I still use aluminum jelly first, then after the back is dry I toothpick the back.

    Regards,


    Buckles
    Thanks for the tips guys! I guess I have just gotten lucky lately, finding buttons with gilt left. I found very few in the past.

    On another note, I tried to clean this CW Scovill Navy button that I found on Saturday. The dirt is like concrete on this one. Do you think I am better off leaving it as is, or would repeat treatments of aluminum help?


    Lemon juice will cut through the crud pretty good. I might do some of the work with peroxide first just to cut down the soak time... but it does look like it has lots of gilt so should be fine. That's one I would definitely clean.

  3. #93
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    I would clean that one as well--and IP is on the right track. It will take some soaking to loosen the crud, and some gentle persistence. Lemon juice is a possibility. Make sure you check on it frequently if you leave it in. But the gilding looks intact, so it should clean up just fine.

    -Buckles
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
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  4. #94
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Here is another beauty; a flat button cleaned using the toothpick method. A good example of the cleaning on a great early 1800's back mark!

    BuckleBoy likes this.

  5. #95
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil in West Jersey
    Here is another beauty; a flat button cleaned using the toothpick method. A good example of the cleaning on a great early 1800's back mark!

    Great photo of that backmark, and an excellent job toothpicking that button! We'd gotten on a bit of an aluminum jelly kick recently, and it's nice to see a good toothpicked example posted. That backmark would be faint or even impossible to see if you'd used water on it. Nice work!

    Toothpicking works on just about anything that is brass with a design on it. I even used it on a powder flask with excellent results.


    Best Wishes,


    Buckles
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

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  6. #96
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    I'm glad I joined this forum! There's some excellent information in this thread. I'm a chemist/coin collector, I specialize in copper corrosion/verdigris conservation.....but only for coins. I never gave thought to all the folks that conserve other copper/brass items. This button thread is an eye-opener for me!

    I'm currently writing a book called Copper Coin Verdigris that explores all the chemical aspects of copper corrosion, including conservation techniques. I hope to contribute to the forum and share my knowledge. 8)
    Inventor of VERDI-CARE™ All Metal Conservation Fluid

  7. #97
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by VERDI-CHEMIST
    I'm glad I joined this forum! There's some excellent information in this thread. I'm a chemist/coin collector, I specialize in copper corrosion/verdigris conservation.....but only for coins. I never gave thought to all the folks that conserve other copper/brass items. This button thread is an eye-opener for me!

    I'm currently writing a book called Copper Coin Verdigris that explores all the chemical aspects of copper corrosion, including conservation techniques. I hope to contribute to the forum and share my knowledge. 8)
    It's a pleasure to hear from you. I look forward to your posts. And WELCOME to TREASURENET
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  8. #98
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Thank you sir! ...and thank you for this interesting button thread! 8)
    Inventor of VERDI-CARE™ All Metal Conservation Fluid

  9. #99

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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Here's my attempt at Naval Jelley. It really cleaned this shoe buckle up. Maybe to much, because in person it looks brand new.
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    Wheats 247
    Buffalo 6
    War Nic 6
    Merc 0
    Rosie 9
    Quarter
    Walking 15
    Franklin 27
    90% 82
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    Skunks:71

  10. #100

    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by nyiangelo
    Here's my attempt at Naval Jelley. It really cleaned this shoe buckle up. Maybe to much, because in person it looks brand new.

    As long as that's gilt or silver plate it's good. There's no in between for that condition... it's either leave it as is, or clean it so it shines.

  11. #101
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by nyiangelo
    Here's my attempt at Naval Jelley. It really cleaned this shoe buckle up. Maybe to much, because in person it looks brand new.

    As long as that's gilt or silver plate it's good. There's no in between for that condition... it's either leave it as is, or clean it so it shines.
    I agree with IP. That's a first rate cleaning job on that silver plated buckle! Well done.


    And glad I could get reply #100.
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  12. #102
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    bump

    thanks BB

  13. #103
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Quote Originally Posted by BobinSouthVA
    bump

    thanks BB
    I'm happy to help, Bob. Feel free to post some photos of some buttons to this thread if you wish.
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  14. #104
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    ok here are the results. Just picking and a bit of brushing. As you can see this one has been a bit squashed and I'm afraid if I try to clean the back anymore it will fall off. It is tight at the moment.

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  15. #105
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    Re: How to Clean Buttons

    Looks like that's about as good as you'll get, Bob. I agree that you shouldn't submerge or wet the button. The back is severely compromised, and it looks quite fragile. But the good news is that it's a great button find, and it is in legible shape and all still holding together.

    Best Wishes,


    Buckles
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

 

 
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