There has got to be a better way......

[UnoZeus]

So, I am new here. I have been reading for a while and decided I might as well join the party. It is nice to see that other people are just as obsessed as I am.

I am fairly new to the sport, my love for silver began my CRH'ing career a couple months ago. As the hours have passed it didn't take long for me to start wondering if I could improve my tactics. First I thought about using some type of metal detector to speed up the process.....
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,291886.0.html
But that pretty much shot down that idea. Although, I still think it could be possible, just not as plausible as I once thought.

So, to get to the point..... Here is my idea.... tell me what you think.

I was thinking I could buy a scale that would measure the total weight of one roll of half dollars. I think each half dollar is around 11.34 grams. So, just take that and multiply by 20 and you will have an approximate weight of each roll. A 90% half dollar weighs about 12.5 grams and a 40% is about 11.5 grams. So, if the weight came out heavier I could assume that some type of silver could be found within that roll. That would save a fairly decent amount of time right? No opening rolls, no rolling, or coin machine dumping.

Is this worth experimenting with or am I wasting my time? Has anyone ever tried this?

Thanks!

 

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[coinmojo]

Funny

Everyone who takes this hobby seriously thinks the same way in the beginning. Most of us have gone through the same thought process. It's the thrill of the hunt though as much as the spoils it brings. It's just not really a good way to search.

In the end you just got to open those rolls, search and dump. Focus on the best way to open the rolls and return them. Bagged, Rolled or coin counting machine. find a good dump source.

I can open machine rolls and edge search a $500 box in under 10 minutes.

I enjoy the process when I'm finding silver like a kid in the candy store when i find silver in a roll but there are skunk boxes as well.

Also if your just thinking you can determine weather there is silver in a roll by weight and just return unopened rolls to the bank you bought them from, they may not order you another box ever again.

Mojo

 

[UnoZeus]

Thanks for the info.

I have figured out that dumping on the same bank you pick up from is a no no. It didn't take long to realize that when you come to pick up halves all the tellers love you, but when you come to dump they talk to you a little less pleasantly. I have scheduled a pretty good system of rotating my dumps. I work about 45 minutes from where I live so I have the opportunity to dump far away and less often, due to the large number of banks in that city.

So, 1 vote for not a great idea.

 

[maine_Jim]

I agree - enjoy the hunt. Older coins also will often be worn down and will mess up your process.

Maine_Jim

 

[Codes]

When you compare the time it would take to weigh the rolls then calculate whether or not there is silver in that roll to the time it would take to tear open the roll and check the rims for silver....you would find out its easier just to open the rolls.

Plus, what if you miscalculate?

-Codes

 

[AGCoinHunter]

I have recently picked up some boxes that someone has been doing something similar to what you are talking about. About 3/4 of the box was in the fed type rolls unopened while the rest of the box was customer rolled. I have been racking my brain to figure out how this person is pulling the silver without opening the rolls and this is the first thing I have seen that makes sense. I assume that he is weighing them, and pulling out the rolls that have silver then returning the unopened rolls. That is the only thing I can really believe would make sense. Why would someone return boxes with unopened rolls in them?

This would work nicely because I wouldnt have to hand rolls the halves, just take them to a dump bank and deposit them. A few weeks back I experimented with taking back some hand rolled halves and the teller looked at them and asked me if I had pulled the silver out. I played dumb which was a mistake because she sat there and opened up ever one of the $480 I was dumping. Made me late for my next dump bank up the road and by the time I go there the machine was full....

 

[placerman]

Is this worth experimenting with or am I wasting my time? Has anyone ever tried this?

Thanks!

You are wasting your time.

Coins wear down and lose metal. Look at any roll and you will see coins with no rims left and coins with full rims. I guarantee you not a single one of them weighs exactly what it was supposed to weigh.

There is no "shortcut to riches".

The only option you have is to sort by hand like the rest of us. Either that or not do it of course.

Good luck.

 

[FL Junkman]

My two cents worth on this subject. CRH ing is supposed to be a hobby. People should enjoy their hobbies so if this seems like work to you, maybe you might want to think about another hobby. Not being critical, just honest. HH

FL Junkman

 

[snappy]

If you were able to do it with some sort of metal detector or scale. You would miss out on any error/proof coins.

 

[fistfulladirt]

If you were able to do it with some sort of metal detector or scale. You would miss out on any error/proof coins.

A metal detector would surely work. If you passed the coil over the roll, the detector would "beep".

 

[bag and drag]

first off I open ALL my rolls but if I see silver on the ends of several rolls in my weekly boxes sometimes we weigh them before opening just for fun.
It has been my experence that any CWI or brinks roll that weighs more than 226.5 grams has better than even odds of having AG inside,any rolls over 227 grams allmost certainly have at least one silver coin.large amounts of brand new coins will throw off this trick but is not usually an issue and sometimes a light roll will have a 40%er hiding inside.
next time you get a good box try it,it's very exciting to weigh out rolls exceeding 240 grams and know theres $25 worth of silver without even peeking!

 

[UnoZeus]

Well, it is nice to see that someone else gave it a shot. If I can find a scale to borrow I might do some experimenting. I don't think it would be worth buying one though.

Oh, and don't get me wrong guys, I love the sport. It is really fun looking through all the coins, but I like idea of being able to get them done faster. Basically, the only thing that is limiting the number of coins searched is the time it takes to search them.

More coins searched = More silver found

 

[coinmojo]

Well, it is nice to see that someone else gave it a shot. If I can find a scale to borrow I might do some experimenting. I don't think it would be worth buying one though.

Oh, and don't get me wrong guys, I love the sport. It is really fun looking through all the coins, but I like idea of being able to get them done faster. Basically, the only thing that is limiting the number of coins searched is the time it takes to search them.

More coins searched = More silver found

The only thing that limits my searching is the ability to dump more than $10,000 in halves a week.

Mojo

 

[TxTim]

My two cents worth on this subject. CRH ing is supposed to be a hobby. People should enjoy their hobbies so if this seems like work to you, maybe you might want to think about another hobby. Not being critical, just honest. HH

FL Junkman

Here, hear!

 

[SFBayArea]

It works in theory but coins aren't made that perfect. Typically 226.0 g/roll is the minimum weight for 90% silvers. I have found a worn walker on one so that is the minimum. As for 40%, you pretty much have to open rolls ranging from 225.1g/roll up. This pretty much encompasses the majority of rolls in the box. You pretty have to open the majority of ones in the box to find the 40% silvers. This is true since I've found 40%'s that weigh 11.2 g. They were just struck on thinner planchets. In other words, to mine for silver 90% or 40%, you have to open the majority of rolls in the box.

 

[AGCoinHunter]

Well, it is nice to see that someone else gave it a shot. If I can find a scale to borrow I might do some experimenting. I don't think it would be worth buying one though.

Oh, and don't get me wrong guys, I love the sport. It is really fun looking through all the coins, but I like idea of being able to get them done faster. Basically, the only thing that is limiting the number of coins searched is the time it takes to search them.

More coins searched = More silver found

The only thing that limits my searching is the ability to dump more than $10,000 in halves a week.

Mojo

Yep, I agree. Picking up that many is no problem, dumping them is another matter.

 

[mistergee]

Why would someone return boxes with unopened rolls in them?

what makes you think that's what happened? i too have come across partial boxes and have bought them up. then the teller says "i guess we have to order another box". some banks keep a box or two on hand as there may be some demand for them in that area. casinos, card games, gifts for the holidays, etc. when i first started a bank offered to order me a box and hold it for me since i didn't have enough spare money to take the whole thing. i would go in and get $100 at a time, dump them somewhere else then go back and get $100 more then repeat until the box is done. then another box is ordered.
and so you know, i have found both skunks and some silver in these partial boxes. stick with the main rule of coin hunting....BUY EVERY HALF YOU COME ACROSS....even if you think its someone else's dump, buy them and check. many coins are missed and some monster hunters only take out the 90%ers and leave the 40%ers as they feel they aren't worth it. however this may no longer be true with silver over $18.