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  1. #1
    us
    Apr 2018
    Central PA
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    Major Lamination Error or PMD?

    Found this penny roll hunting today. When I first saw it I thought major PMD, but after looking at it closer, I realized large areas of the obverse face appear to be flaking away. I've seen lamination errors before, but never this large and usually with any "flakes" already detached from the surface of the coin (like on the right side of this penny). Did something else cause this or is this a legit lamination error?Click image for larger version. 

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  2. #2

    Feb 2006
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    Looks like a coating. Adhesive or glue of some kind?

    Soak in acetone for 48 hours. It should slough right off.

    Time for more coffee.

  3. #3
    us
    Apr 2005
    North Carolina
    Garrett GTI 2500 Garrett AT Gold
    6,092
    2190 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I believe it is a legitimate major delamination error. Put it in a 2x2 before it falls off!
    2019 COIN ROLL HUNTING TOTALS!

    Wheats..7
    Buffalos..0
    war nickels.0
    Silv Dimes...-0
    Silv Quarters-0/0
    Barbers-0/0
    Walker 0
    Bens- 0
    Kenn. 90%- 0
    Kenn. 40%- 0
    Proof- 0
    Silv. Proof -0
    Commemorative-0/0

  4. #4

    Feb 2006
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    We now have a case that is quite common. A difference of opinion. I suggest you take the coin to a qualified professional for evaluation.

    Time for more coffee.
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  5. #5
    us
    ebay "ulster-relic"

    Dec 2012
    port ewen ny
    AT-PRO
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    are the flakes metal or a film like tape, urethane or acrylic? that crescent fold over on right side is rather odd. if real ---- it's a mega find.
    Last edited by port ewen ace; Feb 08, 2019 at 10:41 AM.

  6. #6
    us
    Apr 2005
    North Carolina
    Garrett GTI 2500 Garrett AT Gold
    6,092
    2190 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    That area on the right is where the lamination has already come off.
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    2019 COIN ROLL HUNTING TOTALS!

    Wheats..7
    Buffalos..0
    war nickels.0
    Silv Dimes...-0
    Silv Quarters-0/0
    Barbers-0/0
    Walker 0
    Bens- 0
    Kenn. 90%- 0
    Kenn. 40%- 0
    Proof- 0
    Silv. Proof -0
    Commemorative-0/0

  7. #7
    us
    Sep 2011
    Denver, Colorado
    Garrett AT Pro, AT Gold, ATX, MH7 (oldie!) Minelab Explorer SE Pro
    2,045
    2038 times
    Looks legit to me! Nice find.

  8. #8
    us
    Apr 2018
    Central PA
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    Thanks to everyone who has weighed in so far! As far as I can tell, there is no foreign substance on the surface of the coin. The raised/cracked area is clearly metallic and appears to be the copper from the coin itself. The bright area under "Liberty" must have raised a bit higher than other areas and been scraped or rubbed during recent processing (this came from a MWR).

    The crescent shaped depression on the right side appears to be where the top layer of the coin's surface has already come off some time ago.

    I'm leaning heavily towards this being a legitimate major error, but I won't know for sure until I get it checked out. I'll put it in a 2x2 until I can get it to my LCS for examination.

  9. #9
    us
    ebay "ulster-relic"

    Dec 2012
    port ewen ny
    AT-PRO
    3,361
    6200 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Chuck View Post
    Thanks to everyone who has weighed in so far! As far as I can tell, there is no foreign substance on the surface of the coin. The raised/cracked area is clearly metallic and appears to be the copper from the coin itself. The bright area under "Liberty" must have raised a bit higher than other areas and been scraped or rubbed during recent processing (this came from a MWR).

    The crescent shaped depression on the right side appears to be where the top layer of the coin's surface has already come off some time ago.

    I'm leaning heavily towards this being a legitimate major error, but I won't know for sure until I get it checked out. I'll put it in a 2x2 until I can get it to my LCS for examination.
    I gotta believe not a fan of having it certified--- BUT-- that ugly cent should be worth a buncha buckolas more than the $3 Redbook--- put it on Ebay and wait til the hounds are let loose in a feeding frenzy of bidders
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  10. #10

    Feb 2006
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    It would not be the first time I am wrong. And not the last. I, too, am not a fan of having it certified by one of the big boys. Perhaps if I were going to be at a show where one of the grading services is present, I would change my mind.

    Let us know what the LCS tells you.

    Time for more coffee.
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  11. #11
    us
    Wood Butcher

    Apr 2013
    Indian River Co.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enamel7 View Post
    I believe it is a legitimate major delamination error. Put it in a 2x2 before it falls off!
    Incredible lamination find.

    Definitely agree with Enamel.
    Slip that puppy into a 2x2 holder to protect the retained pieces that are still attached.

    EDIT: The shiny area below LIBERTY is the most recent area of metal to come off.
    Last edited by PetesPockets55; Feb 09, 2019 at 11:46 AM.
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  12. #12
    us
    Jan 2013
    Garrett Ace 350
    676
    522 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    That's a really cool lamination error. So much to look at on that coin. Nice find!
    Ranger Chuck likes this.

 

 

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