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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    I worked at the Riviera Hotel back then...
    The ol' Riviera...may she rest in peace.
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    Skunk visit at the Cortez today.

    Not much to report apart from the $20 I brought home:

    (3/3/20) [400 nickels, 1600 total]

    1938-1959 = 4 (1948-D, 1952-D, 1958-D, 1959-D) (9)
    1960-2003 = 120 (516)
    2004 PEACE = 7 (18)
    2004 KEEL = 3 (10)
    2005 BISON = 2 (10)
    2005 OCEAN = 2 (19)
    2006-2020 = 262 (1st 2009) (1018)

    The next batch will represent an entire box worth and, quite frankly, only 9 pre-1960s is a pretty low turnout so far. I'm amazed I find the dates I have to this point.

    Date checking while at the machines has produced 28 of the 61 pre-60s, with the 49-S being the lowest mintage found so far. Once I get down to 15 remaining dates I'll start a Top 15 list, which I began doing once a decade in the 1980s. Curious if it will be populated by the "usual suspects".
    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  3. #78
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    In between Cortez visits I thought I'd post some of the oddities that I've come across over the years. I have a couple of rolls of abused coins and it's a shame not to share them. These are of course not errors, yet defaced coins seem to have endless varieties. You're welcome to speculate what form of PMD caused the following examples of coin abuse.

    First up is a dramatic one, this dateless nickel that seems to have most of the right side dremeled away. The reverse is perfectly fine.
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    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  4. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    In between Cortez visits I thought I'd post some of the oddities that I've come across over the years. I have a couple of rolls of abused coins and it's a shame not to share them. These are of course not errors, yet defaced coins seem to have endless varieties. You're welcome to speculate what form of PMD caused the following examples of coin abuse.

    First up is a dramatic one, this dateless nickel that seems to have most of the right side dremeled away. The reverse is perfectly fine.
    Kind of looks like a '54 or '64 to me. As for the cause.... My guess is stuck in a coin counting or slot machine somewhere along the way where a rotating part of the machine rubbed against it. Due to the amount of wear, likely for a significant amount of time.
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    Lots found on this Cortez visit so let's get right into it!


    Uh huh, it's buffalo #4 for the year - 1935 - and he came quite polished for the occasion. Minus the extra shine, it grades about a F/VF, but this guy looks like he was ready to be mounted on a piece of jewelry. Regardless, I'm on par thru April for my 2020 buffie goal.


    It was semi-key day for the Jeff series! Got two dates I haven't found in years, this 1938-S (last found 11/9/10) and a 1955-P (last nabbed 10/13/08). It's my 6th 38-S and 23rd 55-P. After that we have this awesome 2012-S impaired proof (first proof I've found since 4/17/17) so that makes the above trio all under 10 mil mintage. Heck, that 12-S is only 1.2 mil, easily the lowest mintage proof I've found and the 2nd rarest nickel I've EVER found, topped only by the 1926-S buffalo. Too bad I didn't find the 12-S from exactly 100 years earlier. Silver has been scarce for about a month, but considering what I am finding, I'm not complaining.



    Per usual a nice assortment of oddities. This British 20p from 1982 was sitting on the coin sorter with that bilingual car wash token and I quickly snagged both. The Singapore 1993 20 cents came right out of the nickel machine, another fraudster posing as a legit US nickel (I found a similar one back in Dec). The "Coin Meter Token" was a nice reject chute find. All welcome additions to the collection.

    In today's $20 home hunt, we got the following:

    (3/10/2020) [400 nickels, 2000 total)

    1938-1959 = 2 (1947-S, 1955-D) (11)
    1960-2003 = 126 (642)
    2004 PEACE = 1 (19)
    2004 KEEL = 5 (15)
    2005 BISON = 3 (13)
    2005 OCEAN = 2 (21)
    2006-2020 = 261 (zero 2009) (1279)

    So the tally, if this were a bank box, was pretty weak. Nothing extraordinary apart from 11 pre-60s and one 2009. The 2006-2020 dominance continues at just less than two thirds of all nickels. Let's see how things progress in the coming months.

    In the overall Jeff series hunt I've passed the halfway mark --> 34 out 61

    Fun Stats: For as far back as my nickel records go (1997 or so) this is the first time I've found a buffalo and an impaired proof on the same day.

    This Week in Casino Searching History: In 1998 I found a 1981-S nickel.
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    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  6. #81
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    PMD Follies


    Used to find all kinda weird stuff when casinos had penny slots. Poor Abe looks like someone went after him with meat tenderizers here.

    Questionable whether I'll be able to casino hunt in the immediate future. Major properties (MGM, Wynn) have announced complete closures starting this week for an indefinite period. Let that sink in...Vegas is closing its casinos. I'm stunned. So perhaps I'll put up more of these oddities to fill the void. We'll see what the Cortez does.

    Stay safe everyone and keep it on TNet!
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    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  7. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    Questionable whether I'll be able to casino hunt in the immediate future. Major properties (MGM, Wynn) have announced complete closures starting this week for an indefinite period. Let that sink in...Vegas is closing its casinos. I'm stunned. So perhaps I'll put up more of these oddities to fill the void. We'll see what the Cortez does.

    Stay safe everyone and keep it on TNet!
    I was actually curious if the casinos would close. Although I can't say I am surprised as they have a sizable percentage of the older/at risk clientele and I can only imagine everything that many people touch daily there with no way for sterilization to keep up... slot machines, coins, betting tokens, poker chips, dice, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan00001 View Post
    I was actually curious if the casinos would close. Although I can't say I am surprised as they have a sizable percentage of the older/at risk clientele and I can only imagine everything that many people touch daily there with no way for sterilization to keep up... slot machines, coins, betting tokens, poker chips, dice, etc.
    As of yesterday, here's the Cortez's position:

    “We are obviously monitoring the situation very closely and as always we will keep our employee and customer health as our number one priority. We currently remain open for business and we have made some changes to schedules and hours of some of our departments. We have also shut down about half of our slot machines to create more social distance between players and we have staff constantly cleaning all public surfaces.

    I'm staying away. We'll see what things are like in a couple of weeks.

    So it's more PMD Follies!


    Today's specimen falls into the "excessive, deliberate wear" category. I have a few nickels like this but this is prob the worst victim.
    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  9. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    We'll see what things are like in a couple of weeks.
    Well that escalated quickly. As of noon today all NV casinos (and non-essential businesses) are shuttered for 30 days. I can't even...

    So the PMD Follies continue with:


    Something took a clean notch out of this nickel. What? I have no idea.

    In anticipation of an eventual return to the Cortez and all its nickel goodies, here's a glimpse of discoveries past.

    Each decade from the 80s onward I tried to complete a Jefferson nickel series from the slots, usually beginning Jan 1st of a given year. Because of the rarity of certain dates, sometimes the search would extend beyond the year I started it. But I kept at it until the set was finished. I believe I started the first one in 1987. These were the top 15 hardest-to-find nickels that first time:

    1. 1939-D (3.5m)
    2. 1950-D (2.6m)
    3. 1943-D (15.3m)

    4. 1942-P (57.9m)
    5. 1944-D (32.3m)
    6. 1938-S (4.1m)
    7. 1945-S (58.9m)
    8. 1951-S (7.8m)
    9. 1955 (8.3m)
    10. 1950 (9.8m)

    11. 1943-S (104.1m)
    12. 1952-S (20.6m)
    13. 1942-S (32.9m)
    14. 1945-D (37.2m)
    15. 1942-D (13.9m)

    Bold represents dates in the actual top 15 rarest of the series.

    Tomorrow I'll post the 90s results and do some comparisons.
    Last edited by Immy; Mar 18, 2020 at 09:01 PM.
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    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  10. #85
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    PMD Follies & more stat dumps!


    Looks like BB gun target practice on poor Tom. Ouch!

    The next survey began Jan 1st 1997 and wasn't completed until 3˝ years later when I finally found the elusive 50-D on 6/16/00 (six months after finding the 38-D). This made for some choice stat compilation! One thing that can skew things, however, is when a hard-to-find date randomly shows up sooner than expected, such as the 43-D which was #3 in the 80s but didn't make the cut this time. Additionally, war nickels are scarce in general which is why they represent roughly half of each list despite relatively higher mintages.

    Bold = dates in the actual top 15 rarest of the series.

    1. 1950-D (2.6m)
    2. 1938-D (5.4m)

    3. 1942-P (57.9m)
    4. 1942-S (32.9m)
    5. 1939-S (6.6m)
    6. 1945-D (37.2m)
    7. 1955 (8.3m)
    8. 1944-P (119.2m)
    9. 1944-D (32.3m)
    10. 1951-S (7.8m)
    11. 1939-D (3.5m)
    12. 1949-S (9.7m)

    13. 1944-S (21.6m)
    14. 1938-S (4.1m)
    15. 1949-D (35.2m)

    Repeaters

    (Date - 80s/90s)

    1938-S - 6/14
    1939-D - 1/11

    1942-P - 4/3
    1942-S - 13/4
    1944-D - 5/9
    1945-D - 14/6
    1950-D - 2/1
    1951-S - 8/10
    1955 - 9/7


    No shows (sub 20m mintage)

    1953-S (19.2m)
    1958 (18m)
    1946-S (13.6)
    1948-S (11.3)

    Highest mintage appearance


    1944-P (119.2m)
    1949-D (35.2m) (non-silver)
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    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

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    PMD Follies & stats galore!


    A constant threat for coins was getting stuck in the old-fashioned counters.

    The next survey began Jan 1st 2009 and amazingly, it has yet to be completed! Casino hunting had dropped off my radar for a few years, from roughly 2012 until early 2019. Many factors contributed to this; family issues, job & residence change, but the main cause was the ever-increasing amount of coinless casinos. Thankfully, the Cortez and a handful of others keep the coin-op flame burning.

    The top three have yet to be found, and the 44-D was only added this past Sept. Questionable whether I should include the missing ones on both lists (2009 & the current 2020) when they're found. Technically I shouldn't, but realistically it's been 20 years since my last 50-D discovery and 16 years since the last 39-D. And I'm not getting any younger. Will there even be coin-op casinos in 2030? Who knows. The current survey may be the last.

    Bold = dates in the actual top 15 rarest of the series.
    Red = debut on list

    1. 38-D/39-D/50-D
    2. 38-D/39-D/50-D
    3. 38-D/39-D/50-D

    4. 1944-D (32.9m)
    5. 1949-S (9.7m)
    6. 1945-D (37.2m)
    7. 1948-S (11.3m)
    8. 1938 (19.5m)

    9. 1955 (8.3m)
    10. 1942-D (13.9m)
    11. 1958 (18m)

    12. 1942-P (57.9m)
    13. 1943-P (271.2m)
    14. 1950 (9.8m)
    15. 1944-P (119.2m)

    3-peaters

    (Date - 80s/90s/00s)

    1939-D 1/11/??
    1942-P 4/3/12
    1944-D 5/9/4
    1945-D 14/6/6
    1950-D 2/1/??
    1955 9/7/9


    No 3-peat (made the first 2 lists, not the 3rd)

    1938-S (4.1m)
    1942-S (32.9m)
    1951-S (7.8m)

    No show 3-peaters (sub 20m mintage)

    1953-S (19.2m)
    1946-S (13.6m)


    Highest mintage appearance

    1943-P (271.3m)
    1949-D (35.2m) (non-silver)
    Last edited by Immy; Mar 20, 2020 at 01:55 PM.
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    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

  12. #87
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    PMD Follies ftw!


    I don't even...I just...whoa.

    Also in 1997 I began my pre-1960 project: to complete a roll of each year/mm. Most are done except the following dates. After that, feast on some stats from the project.

    50P - 32
    42P - 30 (Silver)
    55P - 26
    42S - 21
    44S - 21
    45D - 20
    44D - 20
    39S - 17
    43D - 8
    38S - 5
    38D - 3
    39D - 3
    50D - 2

    Rolls completed

    First

    1958-D (1/11/99)

    First P-mint

    1941 (8/11/99)

    First S-mint

    1954-S (12/18/00)

    First wartime

    1943-P (2/9/03)

    First sub 20 mil

    1953-S (2/11/03)

    First sub 10 mil

    1949-S (4/8/05)

    Lowest mintage

    1951-S (2/24/07)

    Most recent

    1945-P (11/9/08)
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    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

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    Sometimes damage really puzzles me. How is the obverse so messed up but the reverse is fine?

    Continuing with some numbers from my roll completion hunt. There are 61 pre-1960 dates/mms, so complete rolls of the whole series would be 2440 coins. Having no idea how far I'd get, I set a goal of getting to 75% or 1830 coins, reasoning that it's not possible to reach 100%.

    Well, I passed 75%, then 80%, then 85%. The current total stands at 2128 nickels, or 87.2%.

    90% is the last realistically attainable goal, which is 68 more nickels. To reach that I'll have to really rake in the silver, and the lower mintage silver to boot, since the 50-P and 55-P represent only 22 of the 68 needed. But I'm up for it, assuming the casinos reopen eventually.
    Last edited by Immy; Mar 22, 2020 at 02:26 PM.
    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immy View Post
    Also in 1997 I began my pre-1960 project: to complete a roll of each year/mm. Most are done except the following dates. After that, feast on some stats from the project.

    50P - 32
    42P - 30 (Silver)
    55P - 26
    42S - 21
    44S - 21
    45D - 20
    44D - 20
    39S - 17
    43D - 8
    38S - 5
    38D - 3
    39D - 3
    50D - 2
    My list for a roll of each pre-1960 date is similar, though slightly shorter. All are done except the following:
    42S - 37
    38D - 27
    44S - 26
    39S - 19
    43D - 13
    39D - 6
    38S - 3
    50D - 2

    Good luck completing yours, mine have been in a holding pattern for awhile as I haven't searched nickels in 6 or 7 years.
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    And here's the opposite of yesterday - one side okay, the other...yecch! Wonder if someone tried to melt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan00001 View Post
    My list for a roll of each pre-1960 date is similar, though slightly shorter. All are done except the following:
    42S - 37
    38D - 27
    44S - 26
    39S - 19
    43D - 13
    39D - 6
    38S - 3
    50D - 2

    Good luck completing yours, mine have been in a holding pattern for awhile as I haven't searched nickels in 6 or 7 years.
    92.3%, nice! If I could reach that total, I'd be a happy camper. Can you imagine where we'd be if we'd stuck to it?

    Now complete date rolls of buffalos? That's another story...an unlikely one.

    Best I can list in that department are dates that I've found multiples of:

    36P - 7
    19P - 5
    16P - 4
    23P - 4
    24P - 4
    28P - 4
    35P - 4
    14P - 3
    15P - 3
    25P - 3
    37P - 3
    13D - 2 (T-1)
    13S - 2 (T-1)
    13P - 2 (T-2)
    17P - 2
    17S - 2
    20P - 2
    27P - 2
    29P - 2
    36D - 2
    36S - 2

    Some of these are probably a bit higher but I only started keeping track in March 1997. It's still funny to realize that a 1936P buffalo is more commonly found than four different Jefferson dates. Another oddity is that I've found two each of the Type 1 1913 D & S mint (5.3m & 2.1m mintages, respectively) yet none of the much more common 1913P Type 1 (31m). Go figure...
    Last edited by Immy; Mar 23, 2020 at 01:34 PM.
    Last appearance in pocket change:

    Wheat penny: 1956-D (7/24/19)
    Silver: 1949-D quarter (8/9/19)

 

 
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