George Washington Medal ?

legacy1227

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I have a George Washington medal that I need help dating? pricing? I found an article that said it is a Baker-117 B. Tomb entrance medal and the estimated year is 18-1900's? I have no clue what it was made from. It's weight is 4.3 oz and is 2 1/2" in diameter. I would like to find out it's value if it has any value at all. It has some nicks on the rim of the medal. Thank you very much for your help.

I hope this is the right place. I am brand new here and thought the metal belonged here. Hello all.

My son just noticed the words under George's neck that says: F.B. Smith & Hartmann.
 

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Hope you don't mind, I resized them for a better view. Rich
 

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Thank you Rich. I found the e-bay medal yesterday. Really close. I think mine is made from copper. It's got the dents around the rim which makes me think that. It's been a very hard piece to find anywhere to price it. I appreciate all the searching for me. :read2:
Diana
 

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Hi legacy1227, that is a beautiful medal. Is it possible that the metal is bronze :dontknow:.

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Hi hammered, It might be. I thought of the copper thinking copper is on the soft side. But it could very well be bronze. Is there a way I can test it?
 

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legacy1227 said:
No I did not know this! ?

I'm not sure if you are pulling my leg or not. Most people will refer to our older wheat cents as copper when in fact they are bronze. The alloy in our wheats is 95% copper and 5% tin. This is just an example. Most of your medals will be struck in a bronze alloy.
 

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Diver_Down said:
legacy1227 said:
No I did not know this! ?

I'm not sure if you are pulling my leg or not. Most people will refer to our older wheat cents as copper when in fact they are bronze. The alloy in our wheats is 95% copper and 5% tin. This is just an example. Most of your medals will be struck in a bronze alloy.
I am definitely not pulling your leg. I don't pull anyone's leg. I am here for help. I have no clue what this is made of. I put it on the site hoping for help in evaluation of type and value of the (medal). I am not a coin person, I am more of an antique person. This medal is stumping me. I've found some articles of the medal, ( not my exact medal), but nothing of it's value. Legacy.
Thank you for your help. I appreciate all and any help.
 

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The metal is bronze (Am. J. of Numismatics).
Hartmann was an apprentice of Smith. Around 1858 the name Smith and Hartmann first appeared but within a few years, that partnership was dissolved and Horst became Smith's partner (prior to 1876).
Don.....
 

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Mackaydon said:
The metal is bronze (Am. J. of Numismatics).
Hartmann was an apprentice of Smith. Around 1858 the name Smith and Hartmann first appeared but within a few years, that partnership was dissolved and Horst became Smith's partner (prior to 1876).
Don.....
Bronze is good.
 

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Frederick B. Smith is listed as an "engraver and die sinker" based in New York City. He worked at 122 Fulton St. during the war.
Edit: Smith's firm was initially named Bale and Smith (1836-1846), then Smith and Hartmann (to 1856) then Smith, alone, till 1863 when he partnered with Horst--through at least 1891. So the time frame of this piece is between 1846 and 1856.
Don....
 

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Mackaydon said:
Frederick B. Smith is listed as an "engraver and die sinker" based in New York City. He worked at 122 Fulton St. during the war.
Edit: Smith's firm was initially named Bale and Smith (1836-1846), then Smith and Hartmann (to 1856) then Smith, alone, till 1863 when he partnered with Horst--through at least 1891. So the time frame of this piece is between 1846 and 1856.
Don....
That narrows down the years. I could only find the white metal, medal for the year 1860's. 1846-1856 makes it older then I thought. Thank you and I love your photo of you and the baby.
 

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Thank you to everyone who helped me in identifying the medal. It's not an easy medal to find in my color and or metal. (bronze). Again a very big ((((Thank you very much))) If you should run across a value let me know.
Sincerely, legacy1227 aka: Diana : )
 

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