Unknown possible copper found - please help ID

[angifogg]

Found this in a area of 1800's homes, about 7 inches down. Cannot make out ID though, head outline with wavy hair , lettering looks like "pereur" and "JE" with a wreath?

Your help on this is kindly appreciated

 

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[Rob in KS]

Try holding a magnifying glass in front of the camera lens. You'll be able to get closer and get more detail. I'll bet somebody here can identify it. It just might be something good. Maybe a large cent from the 1700's.

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[angifogg]

I was actually able to get some of the crud off with my fingernail. It appears to be a napoleon empereur coin, left bust, with no date. On the back appears to be a wreath with the letters "JE". I've Googled it, but nothing like this comes up?

Any ideas on how to ID the back side "JE"?

Thanks

 

[Iron Patch]

I was actually able to get some of the crud off with my fingernail. It appears to be a napoleon empereur coin, left bust, with no date. On the back appears to be a wreath with the letters "JE". I've Googled it, but nothing like this comes up?

Any ideas on how to ID the back side "JE"?

Thanks

Are you sure it's not King Louis Philippe? I rotated your first picture and the bust seems more similar to him.

I'm thinking this may be a Jeton (token) ....and the JE appears to be a 5 letter word judging by the spacing, so it's not a surprise not much would come up in google.

I really don't know at this point, just brainstorming out loud.

 

[angifogg]

Thanks, it definitely says napoleon empereur on the front. I'm puzzled...

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks, it definitely says napoleon empereur on the front. I'm puzzled...

There's lots to go by so you won't be puzzled for long.... it will be figured out. for sure.

 

[angifogg]

Thanks

 

[Iron Patch]

Thanks

Can you see if there is anything after Napoleon .... Napoleon II or Napoleon III? I took a look through the coin pages so even feel stronger it's likely a Jeton.

 

[angifogg]

cannot see what is after Napoleon

 

[Iron Patch]

cannot see what is after Napoleon

ok, better it's a little more challenging anyway!

 

[angifogg]

I think I found it on EBAY -

[h=3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Token-substitute-coin-FRANCE-LOUIS-NAPOLEON-III-JETON-/291135701930?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c90a43aa[/h] Thanks for your help Iron Patch

 

[Iron Patch]

I think I found it on EBAY -

Token Substitute Coin France Louis Napoleon III Jeton | eBay Thanks for your help Iron Patch

It definitely made the most sense so I figured it was just a matter of looking through and finding the right one.... and you did even sooner than I expected.

 

[Iron Patch]

Stop the presses....

I think you are about halfway there, but I think you have a similar Jeton but a different bust. Obviously you still know the ID, but if you want an exact match it will take a little more looking. That's all assuming this is the correction orientation of it, which I believe it is because his ear is quite clear.

 

[angifogg]

Stop the presses.... I think you are about halfway there, but I think you have a similar Jeton but a different bust. Obviously you still know the ID, but if you want an exact match it will take a little more looking. That's all assuming this is the correction orientation of it, which I believe it is because his ear is quite clear.

Thanks Iron Patch, your right that one I thought was not an exact match. I guess I'll keep Googling it until I can locate it.