Dealer Etiquette?

[Johnnybravo300]

I bet he already had the fake and saw yours was real, like someone said earlier. He should get a smack in the mouth.

 

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[releventchair]

You are a smart man. I'll repost what I posted yesterday--

I would think it would be more along the line of trading in a car with an altered VIN number. I think the OP should respond by sending a registered letter to the buyer offering to buy back the coin at 50 dollars a month interest free.

There are laws specific to altered VIN numbers as there are to altered coins. It's hard telling what the court would rule in this situation but the OP did get the benefit of the 2200 dollars and should try to be fair within his ability to do so.* - Gary Kemper

P.S. Judging by some of the responses here, I don't think some can deal with multiple issues and look out for the best interest of the OP.

First prove the altered vin# occurred prior to the sale. See how that works?
Coin was not registered through a certificate of origin. Making the comparison a crude one.

 

[releventchair]

I think Chet-Lemon can be the best judge of character of the buyer. Sure,anything is possible ,but I have no reason to believe that the buyer was unethical.

Caveat Emptor. / Caveat Kemp-er.
Imagine the buyer scams that would result if claims of altered goods could be claimed AFTER the item is out of the sellers sight and control.....

 

[TwistedT]

You are a smart man. I'll repost what I posted yesterday--

I would think it would be more along the line of trading in a car with an altered VIN number. I think the OP should respond by sending a registered letter to the buyer offering to buy back the coin at 50 dollars a month interest free.

There are laws specific to altered VIN numbers as there are to altered coins. It's hard telling what the court would rule in this situation but the OP did get the benefit of the 2200 dollars and should try to be fair within his ability to do so.* - Gary Kemper

P.S. Judging by some of the responses here, I don't think some can deal with multiple issues and look out for the best interest of the OP.

i dont know what you posted yesterday since it says right now you only have 1 post (this one)

This was a business agreement in the dealers chosen business.
OP did not set price or force dealer to buy said coin.
dealer offered to buy said coin - dealer checked coin - said deal.

Ask any legit coin dealer if this has happened to them - they will say yep.

have they ever gone after the seller because they didnt know what they were doing and bought a coin for more than its worth --- Nope. chalk it up as learning experience.
think its a case of buyers remorse and now hes trying to get his money back

thats the price of doing business - its his chosen profession not the OP's

some days you're the windshield some days you're the bug!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Troll banned and all posts deleted.

 

[releventchair]

Don't have to imagine anything. Just base your opinion on what the OP presented and don't make unsubstantiated claims against the buyer.

I'm not the one accusing the seller of selling an altered coin after I inspected it multiple times.
I'd lawyer up in a heart beat if accused of fraud. Not agree with the buyer and pacify him without actually knowing if the coin I sold was altered or not.
You are free to believe otherwise.

A buyer can claim many things. I'll believe what I know of what I sell.
Blow an engine I had no trouble with after buying from me and I'm I'm fine with it. No control over what you do after the sale ,and not going to pay you for your error. 5hat does not prove fraud.

Have a nice day Kemp.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Post deleted for rule violation and assumption was wrong, they are totally different people.

 

[ARC]

No assumption... merely pointing out...
And obvious 2 separate people.

 

[releventchair]

No assumption... merely pointing out...
And obvious 2 separate people.

I missed it.....deleted too quick.
People ,or I.P. address's ? Or poster posting replies to self as another poster? Or one poster using multiple I.P. addresses?

 

[BigWaveDave]

Just throwing this out there...
Kemper, you aren’t welcome here, please go away.

 

[ARC]

It was "obvious" and was referring to you.

Now... as far as my "tin foil cap"...

I am a wizard who fell on hard times... sold my hat to keep the lightning on.
Tin foil is just a temporary fix.

 

[ARC]

 

[jeff of pa]

I'm not the one accusing the seller of selling an altered coin after I inspected it multiple times.
I'd lawyer up in a heart beat if accused of fraud. Not agree with the buyer and pacify him without actually knowing if the coin I sold was altered or not.
You are free to believe otherwise.

A buyer can claim many things. I'll believe what I know of what I sell.
Blow an engine I had no trouble with after buying from me and I'm I'm fine with it. No control over what you do after the sale ,and not going to pay you for your error. 5hat does not prove fraud.

if I'm not mistaken there is actually a Double Standard .

it's called "the Customer is Always Right"

If a Dealer sells you an Altered coin. He is Duty Bound to Make things Right. accident or Not.

if a Dealer Buys an Altered coin from a Customer. The Dealer Screwed up.
His loss unless the Customer
wants to Make good , or can be proven to be a scammer

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Troll banned posts deleted, they will always be deleted.

 

[ARC]

if I'm not mistaken there is actually a Double Standard .

it's called "the Customer is Always Right"

If a Dealer sells you an Altered coin. He is Duty Bound to Make things Right. accident or Not.

if a Dealer Buys an Altered coin from a Customer. The Dealer Screwed up.
His loss unless the Customer
wants to Make good , or can be proven to be a scammer

Agreed.
Well said Jeff (and not arse kissing.)

PS...
I want to just clarify to all reading these / my posts... I made no accusations... pointed no finger... just pointed out the possibility FOR and ON behalf of the OP... with the only intention being to make him "hip" to the "possibility" / "capability" of a scam / etc.

An enlightened man can be a wiser man.

 

[Nitric]

Agreed.
Well said Jeff (and not arse kissing.)

PS...
I want to just clarify to all reading these / my posts... I made no accusations... pointed no finger... just pointed out the possibility FOR and ON behalf of the OP... with the only intention being to make him "hip" to the "possibility" / "capability" of a scam / etc.

An enlightened man can be a wiser man.

I had the same........Concerns? After reading.

There are "set-ups" to make the dealer feel comfortable, overlook, etc.... Working off what I call "his own greed"(and we all have it to a point). Helps mask it.

Some dealers are just as shady.

I bought some junk, Fake, altered coins, and there was nothing I could do about it. If someone walks up to the counter and says.." how much will you give me for this?" etc................ It happens and it's the buyers fault too.

 

[ARC]

Oh and I would highly suggest you inspect any and all paperwork stating that the coin has been tampered with CLOSELY before returning ANY monies...

IF that is what you so choose to do.

 

[ARC]

In fact... and not to go on and on...

I would NOT return money if I were you IF there is no paperwork FROM a legitimate coin company.

And not a copy of one either.

You must scrutinize this paperwork as to the ability to be forged / altered via a copier or computer.

 

[ARC]

Also... Make sure the coin he hands you back IS the SAME coin you handed him.

Now I know I might hear your thought right now... "they all look the same to me".

THIS is how this is carried out by unscrupulous / greedy people... they feed off the weakness / non knowledgeable in their field victim.

 

[Red James Cash]

Past experience says,"If a dealer thinks he can get away with screwing you,any dealer no matter in dealing whatever,he will definitely try to screw you if he thinks he will get away with it.Especially if large amounts of money are to be made off of screwing you".