DEUS custom made programs

GrandBlancDig

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Loveee this idea! Can't wait to hear some custom programsoftware. I do not have any I created myself, but have two or so that I found online. I will post those soon.

Thanks for starting this thread.
 

GrandBlancDig

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CLEANDEEP

CLEANDEEP

I probably took this program from someone online and made slight changes to it, but it helps me a lot! It's for areas that have little iron or trash. It can go veryyy deep, but can also be noisey if there is trash.

Sensitivity 99
- expert= TX power 2 (can go to 3)
Frequency 11.8 (can go to 7.9)
Iron volume 2
Reactivity 1
- expert= Silencer -1
Audio response 5
Notch 00-00
Discrimination 0
- expert= 5 tones
- pic below shows my tone setup

I hit this in Parks that are clean and boy does it sing nicely!!
 

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GrandBlancDig

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IRON.PARK

IRON.PARK

This is the program I use in areas where you have a lot of trash and iron.

Sensitivity 90
- expert= TX power 2
Frequency 11.8
Iron volume 2
Reactivity 2
- expert= -1
Audio response 4
Notch 01-10
Discrimination 0
- expert= 3 tones
- expert= pic below of my tones

May not be perfect, but I hope it can help someone! It's my go to program.
 

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Reactivity 2 (3 in trash and/or iron)
Frequency 12 or 18
Silencer -1
Transmit power 2
full tones
Audio response 4
O Disc
Sensitivity 90-94

This is all I use 90% of the time. May utilize 0-75 notch when cherrypicking
 

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CZconnoisseur

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GOODJUJU:

I tried this out yesterday and hunted with it for about 6 hours...if you have a "hunted out" area and are pulling lots of deep aluminum beavertails, ring pulls, etc. then this is for you. It's slightly less sensitive to smaller deep aluminum items but you don't lose depth on coins - pulled a few 7-8" deep coins (pennies/dimes) with it as well as a couple 6" deep nickels (4kHz is less sensitive to nickels vs other frequencies). Use a slow-ish swing speed (maybe 18" /sec) and investigate all the smooth squeaky tones.


I'll post the finds tonight....8-)

You will still dig some aluminum, but deep coins are clearer and smoother. Deep aluminum gets crackly if you swing on it faster where the coin targets stay smooth. If you get a one-way smooth response, and nothing on a cross-scan, there's a good chance it's a partially masked target. Dig it!


4kHz
Sens 75
Disc 1
Full Tones
Reactivity 2
Silencer 2
Notch 00-24, 97-99
Audio Response 2
Overload 1
Manual GB = 88 (site specific, my ground reads 84-86 at this place)
Notch Ground 86-89



5-7-16 UPDATE:

Slight alteration to "GOODJUJU" and I pulled a 9" deep dime:

4Khz
Sens 80
Disc 1
Full Tones
Reactivity 2
Silencer 1
Notch 00-24, 97-99
Audio Response 2
Overload 1
Manual GB 88
Notch Ground 86-89
 

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CZ, why not run the sens higher than 75?

Thinking the same thing. Gonna lose significant depth but if good targets are shallow or very junky/irony site it is probably worth a try
 

CZconnoisseur

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Thinking the same thing. Gonna lose significant depth but if good targets are shallow or very junky/irony site it is probably worth a try

After 6 hours of hunting, I didn't notice any appreciable loss of depth. Pulled several 7-8" deep Wheats and a couple silver dimes from a measured 7" that sounded clear and crisp. Air testing at home didn't show any depth loss for coins, but for a folded beavertail there was maybe a 1" loss of depth.
 

vferrari

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My adjacent no notch (other than Iron wraparound at 97-99) 8 and 12 khz 5-tone coinshooting programs:

Disc at 10
Sens at 90 (starting point, bump up if no EMI, down if EMI or deep trash is an issue)
Iron Volume at 0 (I run Iron Volume at 2 for a similar relic program I have that can be used as a coinshooting program also)
Reactivity Starts at 1 and can be bumped up to 2 or 3 max in trashy areas (I keep silencer at 0 for all programs/Rx settings - rather than going to Silencer -1, if I want to go wide open/max depth, I go with gold field which is basically the Deus all metal mode)
Audio Response at 4

Audio Tone Breakpoints:
8 khz: 0-10 (100Hz) 10-40 (351 Hz) 40-55 (502 Hz) 55-80 (651 Hz) 80-99 (800 Hz)
12 khz: 0-10 (100Hz) 10-50 (351 Hz) 50-60 (502 Hz) 60-85 (651 Hz) 85-99 (800 Hz)

Optionally, besides notching at 97-99 (which I do with all my programs)
can notch at 55-70 (8khz)/65-75 (12 khz) for aluminum pull tabs and can slaw.

I set the 8 and 12 custom programs (I have a notched version of each) separated by a 4 khz variant between them in the custom program slots (don't care about the precise tones breakpoints on the 4 khz program so much as I use it to see how vdi changes on a target acquired by the 9 or 12 khz programs to ascertain whether its a rusty bottlecap) as follows:

Slot x = 8 khz (no notch except iron wrap around 97-99)
Slot x+1 = 8 khz with notch (see above)
Slot x+2 = 4 khz no notch
Slot x+3 = 12 khz with notch (see above)
Slot x+4 = 12 khz no notch (except iron wrap around 97-99)

My relic programs are similar (one 8 khz program and one 12 khz program), but 4-tone and no notches set (except iron wraparound) and Disc = 8. I use the relic programs in conjunction with Gold Field (typically use the 18 khz default frequency, but vary it between 4 and 18 khz depending on conditions and found/desired targets) and set GB = Tracking. I have also tended to use Gold Field as a pinpointing program vs. the built-in pinpointer, since, for one thing, GF will still show VDI while pinpointing while Pinpointer uses the "radar screen" cross hairs. By using vdi number I know I am pinpointing on the desired target vs. an adjacent undesired target.

Nothing inventive here on my part regarding the programs themselves, basically just tweaked versions of what are in Andy Sabisch's Deus handbook. For me what is key is how I have the programs laid out in the custom slots that allows me to quickly shift back and forth on the fly by just using the +/- keys. That's how I quickly suck information out of what the target is telling me (without having to fumble with submenus or the pinpointer) and how I set up depending on whether I am coinshooting or relic hunting. Further tweaks are used based on ground conditions and whether or not I am beach hunting.
 

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Calabash Digger

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I went relic hunting this morning at the trashiest place on earth and used my sifter program and I decided to stop by a old ice cream shop that has been torn down and see if I could practice pulling some coins. I had took my at pro there when I was honing my skills with it and there is alot of clad there but its infested with trash,so I used my relic hunting trash program which is not a deep program. I dont think you could get much depth anyway too much trash. Anyway I went to work with the deus and i found out my relic program for trash picks coins out very good. dug 3 quarters and 3 pennies and a dime in 15 mins or so, dug a bottle cap or two and a couple pieces of high conductive trash. I warn you this is a very busy program if you are in trash but it picked out coins very well from thick trash. I got this program from Gary who does the training videos.
full tones
sen86
tx 1
audio respon 3
iron audio 0
discrim 0
notch nothing but you could notch up to the coin range if you wanted.
silencer -1
reactivity 3 and 12 kh
this is one good relic program too . it works great in thick iron and you can bump the sens to 90 and the tx up to 2 if its not to thick and get a little more depth but if its real thick better on the lower settings makes audio more managable. If you can learn to hear the deeper targets with this program you can cherry pick good targets from the middle of nails and trash. takes some getting used to. Im no coinshooter and dont claim to be but it did work well today for the few coins I found today and it is a tested and proved way to pull relics from iron.I listen to everything thats the the way I learned to detect and thats just my style I know some dont like that but it lets me find the iffy signals when relic hunting that others might have discriminated out or notched out,
 

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Tedyoh

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^^ Well said - I run "wide oped" as well in the heavy trash, no notch, no disc, full tones. I love hearing everything and every teeny tiny high tone that may get blocked out from disc. and or notch. ^^
 

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^^ Well said - I run "wide oped" as well in the heavy trash, no notch, no disc, full tones. I love hearing everything and every teeny tiny high tone that may get blocked out from disc. and or notch. ^^

those teeny tiny high tones have produced some finds of a lifetime for me already! love to hear them ever so faint sometimes man I love this machine and the way it can pick it out from the trash.
 

Jeff H

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Here is my current array of programs for woods and fields. Don't mind the colors, just some conditional formatting I used in the spreadsheet when I first got the Deus to help me visualize the settings. Red being one extreme and green the other. I use program #15 most of the time and will switch to either adjacent program depending on the need.

 

kshollywood

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CZ, why not run the sens higher than 75?
Sensitivity is for small items not technically for depth. The higher the sensitivity the more sensitive to smaller objects
 

vferrari

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Sensitivity is most certainly for depth but the trade off is potentially more noise and falsing. Operating frequency is what determines target resolution, with higher frequencies more suited to smaller targets.
 

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kshollywood

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Sensitivity is most certainly for depth but the trade off is potentially more noise and falsing. Operating frequency is what determines target resolution, with higher frequencies more suited to smaller targets.

sorry you are wrong, the higher the sensitivity the more sensitive to smaller objects. Technically the further away from the coil the target gets smaller. But sensitivity is MORE SENSITIVE TO SMALLER OBJECTS
 

vferrari

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sorry you are wrong, the higher the sensitivity the more sensitive to smaller objects. Technically the further away from the coil the target gets smaller. But sensitivity is MORE SENSITIVE TO SMALLER OBJECTS

1. I have frequently stated in my posts that there are very few absolutes regarding this hobby, therefore, I don't think I would ever be so presumptuous as to call another T-NET member "wrong" if I disagreed with their position. I think a key attribute of the T-NET community is that members generally interact with each other with the utmost respect, setting aside some good-natured ribbing from time to time. But I think we are all here to learn from each other, keep an open mind, and realize that we may come at these technical discussions from different angles and perspectives. That enables healthy debate and discussion, which, I think is the point. Slamming the door shut with "you are wrong" type statements I think tends to stifle that healthy debate. Fortunately, perhaps to my detriment, I am not a shrinking violet when told I am "wrong" so I will keep the debate alive, healthy, and vibrant. Getting on with it...


2. Your argument made me smile because it is just semantics that proves, in reality, that "technically" we are actually both right. For an object of fixed sized and composition such as a penny, then a fixed sensitivity setting will not be able to detect a penny beyond a certain depth. A penny is a penny at 1, 5, and 10" and your sensitivity adjustment will certainly affect your ability to detect (from a signal strength standpoint) that same penny at 10" if sensitivity were set at 75 vs. 95 (granted the effect is not linear) all other things being equal. While objects do not appreciably change size in the ground unless damaged (say by a plow blade or digging tool) or through corrosion/decay, they do tend to sink over time or can be plowed up back near the surface. So sensitivity can certainly affect your ability to detect said object depending on its depth. But if you DO want to get technical about it, it is true that sensitivity only affects the signal strength of a target of fixed size and composition (which correct me if I am wrong, pretty much describes all targets) at a given depth. That means that given a large target and smaller target of the same composition at the same depth, you would have to increase sensitivity to get the same signal strength reading on the Deus for the smaller target as you were getting for the larger target at the lower sensitivity setting, all other things being equal. Semantics, in that it depends on what example you choose to use to make your point.

Higher sensitivity enables:

Improving the signal strength of a fixed sized and composition/conductivity target as that target is positioned deeper under the same ground conditions. ("Sensitivity is most certainly for depth" - my quote)

Improving the signal strength of a smaller target vs. a larger target (of roughly the same conductivity) at the same depth.
("Sensitivity is for small items not technically for depth. The higher the sensitivity the more sensitive to smaller objects" - your quote)

So who is right and wrong, here since both statements are true?

3. As a DEUS enthusiast, I presume you own or have read Andy Sabisch handbook on the Deus. Whether you have or haven't, I recommend it highly. Pages 30 and 31 have a great discussion of the correlation between sensitivity, signal strength, and depth. Page 32 has a great explanation of the effects of selecting the various frequency settings and offsets and how "...higher frequencies are better suited for detecting smaller, low-to-medium conductive targets..." Hence my statement regarding using higher frequencies to improve detectability of smaller objects. Makes sense from a pure physics standpoint also when you think about the smaller wavelength of the higher frequency signals and how it can improve how the detector "resolves" those smaller objects.

4. Based on the above, as you know being a DEUS enthusiast, it also not just about signal strength but also tones (or vdi reading) and that is how target conductivity comes into play and it's effects on detectablity.

So a low conductive small target will sound different than a high conductive small target at the same depth given the same sensitivity setting and that may also affect signal strength but the tonality may affect "detectablity" from the perspective of the detectorist. Bottom line is as you start bringing in all the variables associated with the various adjustable detector settings and the variables associated with the environmental conditions and target types, it gets really complicated.


So am I wrong or do you just disagree (or neither)?

Thanks.

BTW checked out your videos and as a central VA relic hunter myself, enjoyed your video and finds. Watch out for that dreaded manual Ground Balance saboteur! Lol. Would love to road trip to your neck of the woods for some Western Campaign relic hunting and would love to show you some great spots out my way should you ever make it out to VA. Just PM me if interested.
 

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I just did a test on the 9-10" quarter buried in my yard since last year. At reactivity 2 silencer -1 and audio response at whatever the factory setting is, I was able to get a good dig me signal with tx 2 sensitivity 80. If I change nothing but the reactivity to 3 then the quarter dissappears and only comes back at sensitivity 90 and still not as good a signal as reactivity 2 sensitivity 80. So the ability to separate comes at a significant cost to depth. Reactivity 2 go ahead and lower the sensitivity. Reactivity 3 dont plan on pulling anything deep. I don't think I have made any good finds beyond 5-6" with reactivity 3
 

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Some Great programs to try here thanks to those of you who contribute
 

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