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  1. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by calabash digger View Post
    It does but I havent used it enough to really learn the little nuances of it yet. So what im getting at is havent dug enough clipped tones to know if its nail heads coming through or actual masked targets. I have dug a few that were clipped and turned out to be non ferrous. Ii will take a go with that two tone deal . Does it chrip on the nails heads bad?
    No not bad at all.....i did dig some larger squares but not many, did not dig any small squares....I was digging any tone that came through....i dug plenty of bullets and rifle brass I did not put in the pic.

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    I like it messed around with it this morning in the garden will give it a try on a good relic site.
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  3. #18

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    Let me know how it works out.....a friend of mine had good results today with it on a heavy iron / hunted out site

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  4. #19

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    Found a few more things in my yard....i forgot to mention....as odd as it sounds this program you also have to get a TDI number as well as tone....nails give good tone but no TDI and big iron gives good tone and 97 98 99 TDI. Again, look for a TDI along with tone with this program, if not you will be digging a lot of nails.


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    i like that ship very much,is that a pin on ?
    Real nice finds cross looks old .
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  6. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal View Post
    Ted
    i like that ship very much,is that a pin on ?
    Real nice finds cross looks old .
    Gary
    Thanks Gary, the boat has is a pin on....almost threw it out, thought it was just a scrap piece of copper. I think the cross is old as well....i live on the same property my great grandparents bought in the late 1800's, hoping it was my great grandmothers....they were very religious

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  7. #22
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    cool finds, the pitch is good too dont dig a whole lot of nails but either way 2 tones or pitch I think we are on to something that will get the goodies out of the iron.
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  8. #23
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    I failed at my first 2tone try but it was a very weak effort.I only dug two signals (junk)went back to full tones .I only had 4 hrs and didn't set up last night so I stuck with what I know.Anyway I got my first standing liberty Name:  ImageUploadedByTreasureNet.com1505086554.693176.jpg
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  9. #24

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    Yeah I'd hit a spot, very hard, many times in full tones, then finally in 2 tones or pitch. The only SLQ I found actually had a date.

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  10. #25
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    Tedyoh,
    Which program do you think works better as your starter program?? Deep or Swifter.

    On another note... I found a pin back ship awhile back too and though it was crumpled brass too.
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  11. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuntinDog View Post
    Tedyoh,
    Which program do you think works better as your starter program?? Deep or Swifter.

    On another note... I found a pin back ship awhile back too and though it was crumpled brass too.
    I actually have them both set up, Deep and Gary Sifter - I use the deep once I get out of the heavy iron, I always start in the heavy iron with 2 tone sifter and circle my way out, then criss cross my way back in once I lose targets outside the iron perimeter. The ship, drawer pull, cross and wheat I was using the Deep 2 tone. I did not find anything where the barn once was. (was using sifter there)

  12. #27
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    I like pitch tones using Dues Fast program (has V4 silencer filters), but do you set iron volume at 0 or 3? I like hearing the iron low tone for information.

  13. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedyoh View Post
    Just got back from PA, old homesite I've been to at least 10 times using full tones no disc or notch, machine gun sounding iron in full tones....2 tones works with notch....before digging I re tested with full tones and heard nothing but nails, I think notching the iron and using 2 tones, just let's that little bit of non ferrous take priority in the processing and audio...although nothing ground breaking I did get an 1864 and 65 IHP's, couple pocket knives, lantern parts, suspender clips, other odds and ends and a really nice tiny crotal bell that's not broke and still works...im telling you try it in your "hunted out" heavy iron old homesites....oh yeah the weeds are still bad there and I could only detect about 1/8 of the area....cant wait till Spring! Also a side note, I ran the HF coil at 28 kHz at the same site in full tones for about a half hour and it looks promising as well....


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    I think I have just the site to try that out on soon.

    Could you please write out the settings you used? Your original post is rather vague, and there have since been a few other suggestions.

  14. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bharpring View Post
    I like pitch tones using Dues Fast program (has V4 silencer filters), but do you set iron volume at 0 or 3? I like hearing the iron low tone for information.
    I turn off the iron volume......my thinking it's one less thing the controller and coil has to process to let that little non ferrous blip come through - again the main thing here is you need tone + a VDI number to dig.
    Last edited by Tedyoh; Sep 12, 2017 at 02:26 PM.

  15. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Buzz View Post
    I think I have just the site to try that out on soon.

    Could you please write out the settings you used? Your original post is rather vague, and there have since been a few other suggestions.
    I have two, 2 tone programs set up..... the first is Garys Sifter Program (you can find these settings on a google search which I think will take you to XP's web site) - I use this program in PA, reason being there is massive amounts of shale in this area and targets are rarely deeper than 5 - 6 inches, so when the iron and non ferrous are so close to the surface and close together, the shallow / mild settings in this program don't overload the iron in your headphones.

    The second is the XP factory "Deep" program - only things I edit in both programs are;

    Iron Volume off

    Tones - 2 tone

    Then to notch, go into expert and notch 0 - 25 (if you apply notch in the non expert field it will raise your discrimination to 25)

    Ground Balance - Tracking (then in expert I apply ground notch to 83 for hot rocks, if you don't have H.R.'s no need to apply G.N. unless you are falsing for another reason)

    Also I prefer 12 kHz over 18 kHz, you get a tad more depth in 12, I have the HF coil I will use and run these programs in 28 kHz in the Spring

    The stuff I found in PA I was using Garys Sifter, the stuff I found in my yard in OH, which were deeper, I was using Deep

    Again, you have to have tone + a VDI over 25 to dig, if not it'll be iron or nails......I'm not sure why these programs give tone but no VDI with notch set to 25, it's like the notch is only notching the VDI number and not the tone. I though notch would notch both tone and VDI number but I'm finding this is not the case.......that's why I'm saying it again (which goes what "normally" not to do with the Deus) - you must have tone and VDI over 25 to dig.

    Also one last point I'll say again, this is a relic program, you will dig way to much junk using these in a modern trash area or park.......unless you make tone + a VDI over 80 a dig target
    Last edited by Tedyoh; Sep 12, 2017 at 03:24 PM.
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