28kHz Killed it today!

Bharpring · Dec 27, 2017

One of my best days ever, all GA State Seal buttons with backmarks Waterbury Burton Co. 11 Coat buttons and 6 cuff button. All found within a 7'x7' area using 9" round HF coil. I had hit this exact same spot yesterday using 14kHz and didn't find a single button. So today decided to use 28kHz and killed it. These were high conductors too- hitting at 98 to 96 VDI in 28kHz.

devldog · Dec 27, 2017

Bharpring, from a fellow Georgian, I'd have to disagree with you on the 28kHz killing it......it simply Murdered it. Congrat's to you on some beautiful state seal buttons. Those are so cool. You and the Deus keep at it.

smokeythecat · Dec 27, 2017

Awesome. Just wait to see what 74khx does. It's amazing.

vferrari · Dec 27, 2017

Amazing! Yeah the higher freqs are button magnets. Killed it alright. Perhaps a little surprised at the high VDI reading based on the metal detected but that may just be a function of the amount of metal and the fact that the coat buttons were large and round. Who knows.

Bharpring · Dec 27, 2017

vferrari said:
Amazing! Yeah the higher freqs are button magnets. Killed it alright. Perhaps a little surprised at the high VDI reading based on the metal detected but that may just be a function of the amount of metal and the fact that the coat buttons were large and round. Who knows.

The little cuff buttons were ringing in the 80s. I wasn’t too surprised. I find the 28 kHz to be about 10 pts higher VDI than 14 kHz in general. Some metals I find don’t interpolate like small iron nails stay very low, which makes the higher frequencies nice (can still disc them out below disc 10). For those who have exhausted their efforts at a site using 14 kHz, try 28 kHz and see what you think? It can feel like a new virgin site (74 kHz is just as good)

vferrari · Dec 27, 2017

Agree with everything you just said. Smokey just bypasses all the low frequency stuff and goes for the 74 khz off the bat and just kills it. Why don't I just I learn from the master and just do that myself? Who knows.

RW · Dec 27, 2017

YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME WITH THIS HF STUFF!! !!! !

...& I thought 18 was high. :tongue3:

Calabash Digger · Dec 27, 2017

Ok I know the higher freqs are unlocking stuff but how in the world did 14 kh miss those buttons

Btw congrats one of the best single digs I have saw.

vferrari · Dec 27, 2017

Yeah, and now that I think about it I would open up a 2x2x3 foot hole right in the middle of the highest concentration of those buttons and see what else is down there. CS tongues, plates, or unbroken glass could be lurking.

Bharpring · Dec 27, 2017

calabash digger said:
Ok I know the higher freqs are unlocking stuff but how in the world did 14 kh miss those buttons Btw congrats one of the best single digs I have saw.

Its hard to believe that 14kHz missed them, I agree. But I actually spent time yesterday over the exact same spot using 14kHz. I found a few coins and an old thimble, but no buttons. Today, I decided to try 28kHz to see if I could get a few things unmasked because the site is littered with iron. I backed my reactivity down to 2 (silencer -1) and notched out 0-30 to get max depth and bam targets everywhere. Crazy. A lot of fun. Now I'm not sure what to do with them? Clean them or leave them alone? The Confederate Script M button was the coolest thing I had found to date, but this day beats that.

Calabash Digger · Dec 27, 2017

I'm gonna try some test with the masking and higher freqs too. Thanks for the post its a real eye opener. BTW I found my script i in 74kh!

Bharpring · Dec 27, 2017

calabash digger said:
I'm gonna try some test with the masking and higher freqs too. Thanks for the post its a real eye opener. BTW I found my script i in 74kh!

That was awesome to watch. Great Vid! Did you ID that other find?

Calabash Digger · Dec 27, 2017

don't know maybe what you said but some say part of a suspender clip.

gene the machine · Dec 28, 2017

Amazing finds and big heads up on using the higher frequencies!!!! It's a whole new ball game. thanks.

Phishfarmer · Dec 28, 2017

After getting the HF elliptical coil I quickly learned that 28kh helped, I found some very small buttons in areas that I had been over before. Everywhere I have hunted 74kh has been so chatty that I have quickly tired of it. I'll try adjusting the reactivity & silencer next time.

17 Georgia buttons in a single hunt

!!! That was a find of a lifetime. Thanks for posting them.

WaterScoop · Dec 28, 2017

Nice work. Awesome finds. How deep were the buttons?
Very surprised that the 14 kh did not even blink in your audio.

Professor of Engineering · Dec 28, 2017

Killer hunt, congratulations! :occasion14:

Bharpring · Dec 28, 2017

Waterscoop said:
Nice work. Awesome finds. How deep were the buttons?
Very surprised that the 14 kh did not even blink in your audio.
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They were all between 6" and 10" deep. Lots of old brick and iron mixed in, very surprised that they were in such good condition. I don't know why 14kHz didn't hear them in the ground? The soil is mild here in Savannah. My only theory is that the higher frequency unmasked them. I found an 1859 IHP a few feet away the day before using 14kHz.

RustyGold · Dec 28, 2017

Awesome hunt! Awesome finds! So glad I have the Deus. Great detector especially with the HF coils.

Bharpring · Dec 31, 2017

Here you go,

some pictures of the buttons minimally cleaned. 3 of the coat buttons and 1 cuff button I left uncleaned because the backside had some of the coat cloth attached. So I'm not sure about those backmarks? 4 of the coat buttons are Waterbury Scovill Mfc Co backmark. 3 (one of which broke apart) of the coat and 4 of the cuff buttons are Waterbury Button Co. backmark. 1 on the cuff buttons is Columbus MCL Mfc Co. In my initial excitement I miscounted and there are 16 total.