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    Miss Deus and I have a love hate relationship 1 day she won't shut up the next NOT a peep 🙂

    Oct 2014
    New York State
    XP Dues (AKA: EMI Chaser/Dog fence lover) 9" X35 - 11" LF - HF Elliptical - MI6 - Garrett AT Pro with Neil Storm Coil, NEL SharpShooter and Garrett Pro PinPointer AT (Carrot)
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    Running a XP Deus for years, thinking about the Equinox 800 to go with Deus

    So I have been waiting and waiting for XP to drop a new machine with multi-freq's like the Equinox 800. I'm getting tired of holding my breath just like the App we where supposed to have YEARS ago.....
    What is XP doing just collecting of the Deus and mini Deus (ORX)
    Anyone have a Equinox 800?
    The good and the bad please!

    I would love to hear from you V on this!

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    us
    Nov 2012
    Maryland
    XP Deus, Tesoro Cibola, Full sized shovel and a backhoe
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    V will chime in. The newest upgrade on the Deus kills it on a salt water beach.
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    Jul 2013
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    Any upgrades for the ORX yet?

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    us
    Nov 2011
    XP Deus
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    1308 times
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    I read a post on another forum the guy put a 15" coil on his nox. To get the balance right he added a counterbalance--28 ounces! That's like adding an ORX. Multi-frequency might save some time but single frequency is better for a given target type. Probably the main reason I did not buy the nox was the coil size. I heard some things I didn't like--headphones kinda iffy, out-of-balance, don't care for the VDI number range.
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    us
    Oct 2007
    Middle Tennessee
    XP ORX XP Deus
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    If your in mineralized ground or salt water beaches your not going to g to benefit from the multi iq thing. I had an equinox and the multi iq falses a lot in iron. The equinox runs much smoother in single freq mode. At least in my ground it did.

    It does have a nice large screen though and it balances decent enough.

    But to me it is kind of flimsy for the price of it too. But do not let me talk you out of it. If you want one go for it.

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    Tom

    Jul 2012
    Mesa AZ
    Minelab Equinox 800, XP ORX, Makro Multi Kruzer, White's DFX w/BigFoot coil, Tesoro Tiger Shark
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    I have both the Deus and the Nox 800. They are both terrific detectors and I find that I use both to supplement each other. I think the Nox is the better coin shooting Park and School detector but I prefer the Deus for hunting the Unlandscaped areas like forests and desert areas. The Deus is a little faster and I like it in the iron infested sites like ghost towns and Railroad camps but the Nox has the agvantage here in the turf sites.
    I think a really good combination would be the Nox 800 with the XP ORX. I don't really need the extra features of the Deus over the ORX as most of those features are enhanced audio features not needed because those are the areas (sites) that the Nox is the better performer.
    45 Years detecting
    Current Arsenal: Minelab Equinox 800, XP ORX, XP Deus, White's DFX w/BigFoot x 3, Tesoro Tiger Shark

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    us
    Mar 2015
    Bodymore, Metalland
    Minelab Excal, Safari, Garrett infinium, Whites prizm 4
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    I have the deus and the equinox 600. I used the HF coil on a site and got two 2 reales at 12" . I went back over the same ground the next day with the equinox and could not uncover any more coins or artifacts that I may have missed. I've also gone the other way, cleaned up with the equinox and gone back over with the deus and nothing left. They seem equal on depth but the deus is faster and better in high iron sites. The small coil helps so much. I like(d) the equinox for beeping in the water but recently discovered they are not as waterproof as advertised. The balance of the equinox s for sh*t and trying to push it in the water makes my hand cramp up. The shaft wobble is a real nuisance but one I've been willing to put up with. Plus a screen is useless in cloudy water anyway. Mines heading back for repairs after a hard two years. I treat all my detectors a bit rough on the kayak or ATV or as a walking stick deep in the brush but the equinox didn't cut it. I had an excalibur for 10 yrs that had a much harder life and did better and I really like the BBS/ FBS minelab machines. I own a Safari thats as slow as a dinosaur compared to modern equipment but it will be my deus backup. I'm not trying to talk you out of it. I'm a diehard minelab fan but I figure tell the truth and you can decide. i love the deus but its too expensive to risk a swim with it.

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    CanSlaw Cage

    Nov 2010
    Wilmington, NC
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    Smokey ,what settings at the beach on 5.21 with the elliptical coil should I use ? Havenít been hunting at beach for a long while due to work but now have time.

  9. #9

    Feb 2020
    Colorado
    Minelab SDC 2300, Equinox 800, XP Deus, Gold Kruzer, Teknetics G2+, Tek Point, XP Mi-6, Gold Hog River Sluices and Flow Pan, Royal Mini High Banker.
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    The Deus and Equinox are my two favorite detectors. I have owned four Equinox, two Deus and an ORX. I keep trying to tell myself I don't need a Deus because I have the Equinox. I am either too dumb or the Deus is too good (both are right) to be without one. Nothing like the Deus in thick iron trash or for raw speed with the 9" round coils or the HF elliptical and the balance is almost perfect with those small coils.

    I ditched the stock Equinox shafts on my 2 Nox 800s as soon as there were alternatives. The carbon fiber shafts by Steve Goss and Detect-Ed are fantastic and well worth the money. The Equinox with the 6" coil and one of those fine aftermarket shafts make the Nox very well balanced. They make using the 11" coil a lot more comfortable too. The stock shaft is very heavy in comparison. The Equinox stock wireless Bluetooth headphones are also very bass oriented and really don't sound very clear to me especially on smaller targets. There are plenty of better Bluetooth wireless headphone choices along with the awesome WM08 wired headphone Wi Stream module that comes with the 800.

    I have not enjoyed using the stock Deus WS4 back phones or the WS5 headphones either. I bought a pair of the Quest headphones that accept the WS4 puck. They sound great, have good noise cancelling and are very comfortable on my big head. The WS4 stock back phones literally cause blisters above my ears after using them for more than an hour and the WS5s are just too heavy and not very comfortable on my head.

    For going after really deep stuff, in heavy mineralization or in wet saltwater sand or surf, the Equinox can really get the job done. The 800 using the 1 tone VCO audio of the Gold Modes can really go deep and you still have very accurate target IDs even at 12".

    One other thing the Deus, ORX and Equinox 800 all have in common besides iffy stock headphones is that they are actually amazing gold prospecting detectors. I have used all three extensively in the gold fields out west and they have never failed to impress me for handling hot rocks, cold rocks, mineralization and ferrous/non-ferrous identification accuracy. All three are also great for micro jewelry hunting.

    The Equinox and Deus are about as different as you can get in a VLF however. I have a really hard time switching from one to the other. If you don't want to drive yourself crazy and just want to try Minelab Multi IQ without shelling out big bucks, try the Vanquish 440 or 540. They go as deep as the Equinox on dry land with comparable settings and coils, have extremely accurate target ID all the way to the edge of detection, work great in wet sand, have good ergonomics and are really fun to use. For the price they are hard to beat.
    Last edited by jmc24; Sep 12, 2020 at 09:35 AM.
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    Minelab SDC 2300, Equinox 800, XP Deus, Gold Kruzer, Teknetics G2+, Tek Point, XP Mi-6, Royal Mini Highbanker, Gold Hog River Sluice and Flow Pan

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    I'm a long time Minelab user, Deus convert, but do own an Equinox. Both detectors are fairly close if you know each well but there's a much steeper curve for the Deus... and probably more so for me switching to a detector that was very different. Even once I bought and took the EQ for quite a few hunts I stuck to the Deus as my main detector because to me there's more info in the sound, and it's better to swing. I think anyone who knows the Deus very well would stick to it over the Minelab, but for anyone who doesn't know it, or doesn't know it as well as they think they do, the Equinox is a little more user friendly/forgiving so they may like what they see and stick with it. The only purpose my EQ serves these days is for backup and salt water. Otherwise it collects dust... but does do an excellent job at that!
    Last edited by Iron Patch; Sep 13, 2020 at 10:41 AM.

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    us
    Miss Deus and I have a love hate relationship 1 day she won't shut up the next NOT a peep 🙂

    Oct 2014
    New York State
    XP Dues (AKA: EMI Chaser/Dog fence lover) 9" X35 - 11" LF - HF Elliptical - MI6 - Garrett AT Pro with Neil Storm Coil, NEL SharpShooter and Garrett Pro PinPointer AT (Carrot)
    407
    395 times
    Metal Detecting
    Sorry for the late response I recently opened a business and am buried. I went ahead and got the Nox 800 with 11" coil. Really confusing coming from a Deus really confusing! But I'll give it a shot and its nice to have 2 machines.

    Thank you all for your replies !! Keep them coming! I deff like the MI-6 better then the Pro-30 that is for sure!
    Last edited by austin_luker; Sep 12, 2020 at 09:39 PM.
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    us
    Oct 2016
    South St Paul, MN
    XP Deus, Minelab Equinox 800
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Slick View Post
    I have both the Deus and the Nox 800. They are both terrific detectors and I find that I use both to supplement each other. I think the Nox is the better coin shooting Park and School detector but I prefer the Deus for hunting the Unlandscaped areas like forests and desert areas. The Deus is a little faster and I like it in the iron infested sites like ghost towns and Railroad camps but the Nox has the agvantage here in the turf sites.
    I think a really good combination would be the Nox 800 with the XP ORX. I don't really need the extra features of the Deus over the ORX as most of those features are enhanced audio features not needed because those are the areas (sites) that the Nox is the better performer.
    I couldn't have said it better. In fact, I was going to post something essentially the same, until I saw your post. I have a park near me with a few old coins and a jillion bottlecaps going back to the beginning of bottlecaps. I quickly gave up trying to detect it until I got the Equinox. On the other hand, give me a farm field where an old house used to sit and the Nox stays in the truck. The Deus with the 9" coil is just the ticket in all those nails, and I can swing it all day long.
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    us
    Nov 2012
    Maryland
    XP Deus, Tesoro Cibola, Full sized shovel and a backhoe
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    Chazzcage, to answer your question, I use "wet beach", tracking for gb and 74 khz. I really find no need to tweak the Deus as it slams it under all conditions. I even took it out once in a blowing sideways snowstorm. Under 2 pounds you can swing it forever and ever and ever. I was hunting wet surf yesterday and it did well. I it extremely easy to use. I think people get confused when they try to tweak it. On both the Equinox and Deus I think the most problems folks have is trying to over tweak them. The manufacturers know what they are doing when they set the presets.
    Last edited by smokeythecat; Sep 13, 2020 at 07:34 AM.
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    us
    Oct 2016
    South St Paul, MN
    XP Deus, Minelab Equinox 800
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    1836 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    Chazzcage, to answer your question, I use "wet beach", tracking for gb and 74 khz. I really find no need to tweak the Deus as it slams it under and conditions. I even took it out once in a blowing sideways snowstorm. Under 2 pounds you can swing it forever and ever and ever. I was hunting wet surf yesterday and it did well. I it extremely easy to use. I think people get confused when they try to tweak it. On both the Equinox and Deus I think the most problems folks have is trying to over tweak them. The manufacturers know what they are doing when they set the presets.
    I would agree with what you say about presets when it comes to the Equinox. I do not agree when it comes to the Deus. Most of the presets, IMO, really suck. I think the marketing team got involved and thought that most people would want to emulate their previous XP machines, so many of the presets were set up for that. And of course, they wanted a preset for the rank novices to use, so there went another preset. I have tested the presets a few times over the years, and invariably have found them to be weak, at best. But they do serve as good starting points.

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    us
    Miss Deus and I have a love hate relationship 1 day she won't shut up the next NOT a peep 🙂

    Oct 2014
    New York State
    XP Dues (AKA: EMI Chaser/Dog fence lover) 9" X35 - 11" LF - HF Elliptical - MI6 - Garrett AT Pro with Neil Storm Coil, NEL SharpShooter and Garrett Pro PinPointer AT (Carrot)
    407
    395 times
    Metal Detecting
    great feed back
    thank you keep on coming!

 

 
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