Hylotropic vs. Holotropic state of consciousness

[Mike(Mont)]

Human beings have a strange paradoxical nature.

"In the hylotropic mode of consciousness, an individual experiences himself or herself as a solid physical entity with definite boundaries and with a limited sensory range. The world appears to be made of seperate material objects and has distinctly Newtonian characteristics: time is linear, space is three-dimensional, and all events seem to be governed by chains of causes and effects. Experiences in this mode support systematically a number of basic assumptions about the world, such as: matter is solid; two objects cannot occupy the same space; past events are irretrievably lost; future events are not experientially available; one cannot be in more than one place at a time;..."

"In contrast to the narrow and restricted hylotropic mode, the holotropic variety involves the experience of oneself as a potentially unlimited field of consciousness that has access to all aspects of reality without mediation of the senses...the solidity and discontinuity of matter is an illusion generated by a particular orchestration of events in consciousness; time and space are ultimately arbitrary; the same space can be simultaneously occupied by many objects; the past and the future are always available and can be brought experientially into the present moment; one can experience oneself in several places at the same time;..."
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...An average "healthy" individual has a sufficiently developed system of psychological defenses to protect him or her from holotropic intrusions..."

You can read more about this if you dare. This came from the book "The Adventure Of Self-Discovery" by Stanislav Grof. I admit there is a fine line here between the sacred and mystical and the psychopathic. Most people do experience light amounts of the holotropic in daily life. The fruitcakes are another story.

[Rebel - KGC]

And, YOUR experience was/is... ?

[Rebel - KGC]

SOUNDS like Peyoke or Mushrooms, used within a "spiritual context" (Ritual(s).

[ClonedSIM]

Vine of Death and if the name is not enticing enough, people who take it say it is the most vile thing they have ever tasted. Causes diarrhea and vomitting and gives a near death experience (wonder why they say that?). Think I'll pass on this one. Really I only mentioned it because the pineal gland produces something similar to this.

Do you mean melatonin, Mike?