Talk, talk, enough talk already.
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Well said Art, and I will keep finding coins and junk items.
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And no doubt you're finding gold. It's just a shame these claims and finds can never be subjected to testing. Other than the subjective tests of the anecdotal stories. Which, yes, are quite compelling.
Kind of hard to argue with a picture of a dude posing next to a jar of coins he found, eh ? But when it comes time to test it , to make sure it's not explainable by other more-plausible explanations : Never seems to happen. And yes, like invisible leprechauns, there's a myriad of bullet-proof reasons why these tests will never happen (or were rigged, unfair, etc...) Sure I get it. Hence: All we have is the anecdotal stories of the gold, .22 shells, wires, etc....
They dont need to be subjected to testing, they dont have to prove squat to anyone.
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Seriously, I'm interested in this idea of dowsing but watching this video makes me more skeptical than intrigued. But I'm new to this so I don't really know what I'm looking at.
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Your 100th coin video. He said he watched it in an earlier post and was curious about some things.
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Beats me as I never posted a video about finding coins, only pictures.
I am on a smart phone right now and don't know how to copy and paste youtube video links on it yet.
Tomorrow morning I will go to our library and post my favorite dowsing videos here then.
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I posted it for you on page four when it wouldn't embed in your post.
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Thanks for keying my memory. I had forgot about that one. I don't know why I could not get it to show but that was what happened.
The two following videos are my favorite ones. I never get tired of watching them. There are others out there on youtube.
Enjoy
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Metal detectors works, dowsing does not..Pretty simple....
Dowsing will NEVER work for anyone who has doubts and negative feelings to others.
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I've always wondered why dowsing is dependent on "vibes" and "feelings". I mean, I *get* the rationale that is offered: Namely, that .... just like md'ing, if you go out with negative feelings, bad mood, mind-is-distracted, etc... that ... yes .... you don't do as good md'ing. Right ? That you're therefore not tuned in to deep silver whispers, right ?
But to *remove* for that component (to make it a DBT where that factor is removed), here's where the analogy breaks down, when the "vibes" thing is trying to show-similarity between dowse & md'ing : If you took 100 people with "bad vibes" and "no training" and "negativity", then ... sure : That would be the immediate go-to reason why their dowsing attempts failed. Right ? But if you took those same exact 100 people, with "bad vibes" and "no training" and "negativity, and asked all 100 of them to wave a quarter in front of a metal detector. I'll bet that the detector beeps for all 100 of them.
No training or positive demeanor needed. Right ? Hence: Vibes and feelings and doubts and negativity have no bearing on metal detectors.
Thus I do not accept the attempt to try to draw a parallel .
Unless, of course, we attribute the power of dowsing to something supernatural and mystical and spooks. Then ... sure ... there are things in that realm that can't be measured and scientifically tested. But the moment you go down *that path* , is the moment you open up the pandora's box (even within dowser's own ranks) of having it now be compared to religion, spooks, supernatural, occult, etc..... Most dowsers don't go there. And will say , instead, that there's something scientific (albeit un-discovered) going on.
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Tom, are you back?
There are three things going on here,
1. You skeptics want dowsing to work like a metal detector and when it does not, you cry spook.
2. For us dowsers, we know we can find things while dowsing. 3. We also know dowsing does not work like a metal detector.
In fact, I have posted pictures of some of my dowsing finds.
There are three things going on here,
1. You skeptics want dowsing to work like a metal detector and when it does not, you cry spook.
2. For us dowsers, we know we can find things while dowsing. 3. We also know dowsing does not work like a metal detector.
In fact, I have posted pictures of some of my dowsing finds.
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Tom isnt here, he was banned for multiple rule violations and after many warnings.
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