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Jul 03, 2012, 01:11 AM
#1
Apparently this is what our honorable governor signed
Suction Dredge language signed by the Governor>apparently we are screwed until we can get a court to overturn this back room deal, if that is even possible

 SEC. 6. Section 2948 is added to the Fish and Game Code, to read:
2948. This article shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2013, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2013, deletes or extends that date.
SEC. 7. Section 5653.1 of the Fish and Game Code is amended to read:
5653.1. (a) The issuance of permits to operate vacuum or suction dredge equipment is a project pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (Division 13 (commencing with Section 21000) of the Public Resources Code) and permits may only be issued, and vacuum or suction dredge mining may only occur as authorized by any existing permit, if the department has caused to be prepared, and certified the completion of, an environmental impact report for the project pursuant to the court order and consent judgment entered in the case of Karuk Tribe of California et al. v. California Department of Fish and Game et al., Alameda County Superior Court Case No. RG 05211597.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 5653, the use of any vacuum or suction dredge equipment in any river, stream, or lake of this state is prohibited until the director certifies to the Secretary of State that all of the following have occurred:
(1) The department has completed the environmental review of its existing suction dredge mining regulations, as ordered by the court in the case of Karuk Tribe of California et al. v. California Department of Fish and Game et al., Alameda County Superior Court Case No. RG 05211597.
(2) The department has transmitted for filing with the Secretary of State pursuant to Section 11343 of the Government Code, a certified copy of new regulations adopted, as necessary, pursuant to Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code.
(3) The new regulations described in paragraph (2) are operative.
(4) The new regulations described in paragraph (2) fully mitigate all identified significant environmental impacts.
(5) A fee structure is in place that will fully cover all costs to the department related to the administration of the program.
(c) (1) To facilitate its compliance with subdivision (b), the department shall consult with other agencies as it determines to be necessary, including, but not limited to, the State Water Resources Control Board, the State Department of Public Health, and the Native American Heritage Commission, and, on or before April 1, 2013, shall prepare and submit to the Legislature a report with recommendations on statutory changes or authorizations that, in the determination of the department, are necessary to develop the suction dredge regulations required by paragraph (2) of subdivision (b), including, but not limited to, recommendations relating to the mitigation of all identified significant environmental impacts and a fee structure that will fully cover all program costs.
(2) The requirement for submitting a report imposed under this subdivision is inoperative on January 1, 2017, pursuant to Section 10231.5of the Government Code.
(3) The report submitted to the Legislature pursuant to this subdivision shall be submitted in accordance with Section 9795 of the Government Code.
(d) The Legislature finds and declares that this section, as added during the 2009–10 Regular Session, applies solely to vacuum and suction dredging activities conducted for instream mining purposes. This section does not expand or provide new authority for the department to close or regulate suction dredging conducted for regular maintenance of energy or water supply management infrastructure, flood control, or navigational purposes governed by other state or federal law.
(e) This section does not prohibit or restrict nonmotorized recreational mining activities, including panning for gold.
"The most inspiring thing about gold, is not the value, but under magnification, the true beauty of each piece. They are truly like snowflakes that never melt." Oakview2 Fly EAGLE Fly......
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Jul 03, 2012, 08:35 AM
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Conservative Cherokee "WP" (Wolf Pack 4Ever)
Brown stinks. Prospecting.
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Jul 03, 2012, 08:44 AM
#3
Ifn' it's Brown......flush it........
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Jul 03, 2012, 10:43 AM
#4
This is a law that needs to be broken. Laws are made to protect people and property. This doesn't apply. My back hurts from bending over and grabbin' my ankles for the last 3 years.
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Jul 03, 2012, 02:25 PM
#5
If they can levvy more funds from Citations than they took in from Permits it will be another straw.They have a history of skewing data so dont be surprised.I have heard rumor of F&G in the act of helicopter patrols for MJ Gardens patroling waterways for illegal dredging as well.
M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
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Jul 03, 2012, 04:57 PM
#6
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Jul 04, 2012, 12:28 AM
#7
Gather ammo and weapons....the fight is on.......
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Jul 04, 2012, 12:35 AM
#8
Regulation nation....im waiting for the south to rise again and this yankee is joining them
Im not crazy......my mother had me tested
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Jul 04, 2012, 11:12 AM
#9
It's amazing just how much treasure people loose and we manage to find. 
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Jul 05, 2012, 08:19 AM
#10
Why aren't they flying over any of those meth labs and pot gardens and doing something about those operations that are doing serious damage to the enviorment and in the case of meth, creating living zombies that will kill and steal from their own families to fuel their addiction.
"The most inspiring thing about gold, is not the value, but under magnification, the true beauty of each piece. They are truly like snowflakes that never melt." Oakview2 Fly EAGLE Fly......
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Jul 05, 2012, 11:47 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by Hoser John
John,i need one of these "T" shirts!
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Jul 05, 2012, 01:11 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by dustytrails123
Regulation nation....im waiting for the south to rise again and this yankee is joining them
?Yet you want to tell someone else what they can and cant do,by your opinion?Ever heard of dont step on my toes and I wont yours?
M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
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Aug 09, 2012, 07:49 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by kuger
If they can levvy more funds from Citations than they took in from Permits it will be another straw.They have a history of skewing data so dont be surprised.I have heard rumor of F&G in the act of helicopter patrols for MJ Gardens patroling waterways for illegal dredging as well.
OH there doing it there using copters on the san joaquin river up here and there confiscating and citing guys but DA is dropping charges for now but it takes months to get property back maybe even years
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Aug 10, 2012, 08:42 AM
#14
Vinnie are you in the Fresno area ? I am wondering if this just for dredging or are they running off highbankers as well? My son and I would love to find some good areas to highbank below Squaw Leap, but it seems like it is very heavily claimed up there
Last edited by Oakview2; Aug 14, 2012 at 09:48 AM.
"The most inspiring thing about gold, is not the value, but under magnification, the true beauty of each piece. They are truly like snowflakes that never melt." Oakview2 Fly EAGLE Fly......
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Aug 10, 2012, 06:02 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by Oakview2
Suction Dredge language signed by the Governor>apparently we are screwed until we can get a court to overturn this back room deal, if that is even possible 
What you didn't quote was F&G defined what "suction dredging" is. It is defined as "SLUICE suction dredging". Just work around that definition.
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