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    hookah help

    to start I have access to a brownie system I've been using. I've read how its a bad idea to make your own system and some swear DIY is the way to go. Just wondering about compressor a compressor type. Electric Hookamax uses medical grade compressor. Looking online found a medical grade dental compressor for $285. Would like to have a electric compressor also. https://www.smtmax.com/detail.php?id=229 is the website. SMTMax SL-40... Wife works for a DMD and may have something similar laying around just seeing if this may work.Any help is appreciated.

    Single Motor Silent Oil-Free Air Compressor
    Power (W) 480
    Max pressure(Mpa): 115 PSI
    Working pressure(Mpa): 0.8
    Rated discharge: 0.85
    Noise(dB): 48
    Capacity(L/min): 89
    Tank(L): 9
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    Looking at this diagram, I dont think this would work.

    Typical hookah setups (hookah is around 1ATM or 33 feet) put out around 50psi and 2 to 4cfm per diver. If you are working hard, you will need more than 2CFM.

    Looking at this, at 50 psi you get a little less than 2 cfm, and it never gets to 4, and then you have to consider what depth you want to max at.

    hookah max is 2.55 at 65psi, while this one is about 1.75 at 65psi

    It needs to be an oil free compressor, not necessarily a medical grade compressor.

    A very common air compressor to use for hookah is the Thomas 1020. (2.62 CFM at 50PSI)

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    Last edited by seekerGH; May 31, 2017 at 10:25 PM.
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    RIDGID 6 Gal. Portable Electric Pancake Compressor-OF60150HA - The Home Depot

    $99
    Attachment 1457285

    Equipped with a best-in-class oil-free pump for reliable, maintenance-free performance,

    Large, 6 Gal. capacity tank reduces cycle frequency (good surge tank)
    150 maximum PSI for the toughest applications
    2.6 SCFM at 90 PSI for high air delivery and maximum performance (more than enough )

    Surge tanks are great to provide a good flow of air and to cool the air from the compressor.
    Last edited by seekerGH; May 31, 2017 at 10:36 PM.
    the first 5 days after the weekend are the toughest...

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    110v AC works fine for use on a dock kinda scary on a river

    Puma 12 Volt 1.5 Gallon Oil-Less Air Compressor 3.4cfm at 40psi run it off a deep cycle battery
    30 amps, you can set the pressure, only runs when its being used shuts off when it reaches the set pressure
    Puma 12 Volt 1.5 Gallon Oil-Less Air Compressor Free Shipping Oiless 12V | eBay
    Last edited by winners58; May 31, 2017 at 10:47 PM.
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    Still have to add micro filters correct

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    Micron

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitty4687 View Post
    Still have to add micron filters correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by winners58 View Post
    Puma 12 Volt 1.5 Gallon Oil-Less Air Compressor 3.4cfm at 40psi run it off a deep cycle battery
    30 amps, you can set the pressure, only runs when its being used shuts off when it reaches the set pressure
    Puma 12 Volt 1.5 Gallon Oil-Less Air Compressor Free Shipping Oiless 12V | eBay

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    Personally , I would avoid using any air compressor for breathing that has a steel air tank ! The reason being is that the condensation of the air will cause rusting of the inner portion of the tank. and this rust will eventually end up in your lungs. I have used the stainless steel "Korny keg" for my air reserve tank and it has the big opening so that you can clean /disinfect the inners of the tank to prevent any mold from forming (mold kills) . Plus I like installing a water trap / air filter to help "clean" the air I breath. Currently I have a Thomas T-80 compressor that's powered by a 3 H.P. gas engine and its all on inflatable floats just like the Keenes 2 inch dredge floats . I have it towed behind my Keene 2 inch dredge (just incase!)
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    russau, that is true, on any particles or water, you should always add a class D filter to any system for breathable air.

    As far as mold, you will get that on any system if not maintained properly, scuba tanks are made of steel.
    the first 5 days after the weekend are the toughest...

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    Thanks for the help also I purchased a p180 pump. To put on a Honda gx120 that had a koshin pump on it. To find out the treads wouldn't work. I've been looking.is this the motor Keene and proline are using for their pumps. The Hondas are about $350
    Honda Horizontal OHV Engine for Non-Honda Pumps 118cc, GX Series, Threaded 5/8in. x 2 7/16in. Shaft, Model# GX120UT2TX2
    Or would this briggs work?
    Briggs and Stratton 550 Series Engine 5.5 TP OHV 5/8" Threaded Shaft #83132-1211
    Which is $180.
    If the Honda or briggs are not the correct models could someone point me towards the right one. Thanks


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    I have a 3 H.P. engine with my T-80 compressor on it ,plus its on inflatable floats and alumn. frame like Keene has for there 2 inch dredge. I also have it tethered to be behind my 2 inch Keene dredge just incase.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by russau View Post
    I have a 3 H.P. engine with my T-80 compressor on it ,plus its on inflatable floats and alumn. frame like Keene has for there 2 inch dredge. I also have it tethered to be behind my 2 inch Keene dredge just incase.............
    +1 I got my honda knock off from Harbor Freight, on sale, and a 20% it came to $79 plus $6 ship. For that price you can't not have one

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    Quote Originally Posted by seekerGH View Post
    russau, that is true, on any particles or water, you should always add a class D filter to any system for breathable air.

    As far as mold, you will get that on any system if not maintained properly, scuba tanks are made of steel.
    And aluminum... And stainless steel accumulator bottles.
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    No tank needed... do it right... direct drive / cup comp.
    High intake.
    Inline particulate filter is all that is needed.
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