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Feb 15, 2021, 12:40 PM
#31
MAGA
I'm going to "circle back". I'm with Russ.
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Feb 15, 2021, 04:46 PM
#32
Here is what will happen.............You will buy the cute dredge because it's compact and easy to transport. After some prospecting, you will get on good color, then work yourself to death trying to suck more material. After a few weeks of that, you will be back here asking for recommendations on a 4".
You asked, and several of us that have been dredging for years answered because we went through the same process you are going through now. Learn from our experience, or spend double on two dredges. It's your choice.
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Feb 15, 2021, 07:36 PM
#33
 retired bumb and part time Hobo
For me I went with several dredge's and I liked my choice in doing so! Back when I could still dredge & prospect ,I traveled around the Country and different state's and the prospecting laws and state laws are different in each state. Plus the stream conditions are ALWAYS different. I always brought all my equipment where ever I went ! It's very costly to forget something at home and either do without OR drive back home or go buy another close to where your working. Among friends , I was referred to as the "traveling hardware store". Funny at the time but most people knew that I brought the tools to repair it ! Now that I've come to the end of my journey in prospecting / dredging I ended up selling everything EXCEPT for some hold out "STUFF" and maybe I can build for someone else in our Show me G.P. club . AZViper sent me a email about his plans for a Miller table that I bought the mat several years back and now I'm going to build it and donate it to one of our club member's in some sort of raffle with the money going to our club whenever this Corvid-19 goes away !!
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Feb 17, 2021, 01:27 PM
#34
 Originally Posted by Phil
Here is what will happen.............You will buy the cute dredge because it's compact and easy to transport. After some prospecting, you will get on good color, then work yourself to death trying to suck more material. After a few weeks of that, you will be back here asking for recommendations on a 4".
You asked, and several of us that have been dredging for years answered because we went through the same process you are going through now. Learn from our experience, or spend double on two dredges. It's your choice.
I agree with your theory to some extent...
There are definitely places in my neck of the woods that I will pack the backpacking dredge into for some fun prospecting that I would never try if I had to hump a 4" in in pieces...
Now, that said if that place pans out I may decide to spend several days getting the larger dredge & all it's goodies in there. So in my opinion, the small dredge (like the 2.5: Dahlke) is never wasted even when you buy that 4 or 5" dredge. They are both tools in the tool box. Unless you want to spend all your time close to the truck. Then start big & stay there
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Feb 17, 2021, 02:11 PM
#35
 Originally Posted by Vance in AK
I agree with your theory to some extent...
There are definitely places in my neck of the woods that I will pack the backpacking dredge into for some fun prospecting that I would never try if I had to hump a 4" in in pieces...
Now, that said if that place pans out I may decide to spend several days getting the larger dredge & all it's goodies in there. So in my opinion, the small dredge (like the 2.5: Dahlke) is never wasted even when you buy that 4 or 5" dredge. They are both tools in the tool box. Unless you want to spend all your time close to the truck. Then start big & stay there 
You make an excellent point I had not considered. If I was starting over and looking for new areas, the 2" is the way to go.
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Feb 17, 2021, 03:56 PM
#36
 Roger. USAF Vietnam war Combat Vet
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Feb 17, 2021, 08:38 PM
#37
 Originally Posted by RTR
I take back what I said.............With color like that a 6" dredge is the only way to go! LOL
Last edited by Phil; Feb 17, 2021 at 08:41 PM.
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Feb 17, 2021, 11:14 PM
#38
 Rock stacker
I'm not saying don't buy a 2.5 I am just saying it won't move the overburden. They're great for cleaning cracks that are shallow. I hate floats they make adjusting the sluice a pain I built a stand with adjustable legs for my 4" to run without its floats in my creek. How much water is available?
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Feb 18, 2021, 07:46 AM
#39
 Roger. USAF Vietnam war Combat Vet
 Originally Posted by N-Lionberger
I'm not saying don't buy a 2.5 I am just saying it won't move the overburden. They're great for cleaning cracks that are shallow. I hate floats they make adjusting the sluice a pain I built a stand with adjustable legs for my 4" to run without its floats in my creek. How much water is available?
Depending on time of year a few inches of water to 2 Ft. of water. AND IF I could use a bigger dredge,I would, but its a Looooong walk in.And most of the walk there isn't enough water to 'Float' a big/heavy dredge.And no way to get a ATV in .
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Feb 18, 2021, 09:34 PM
#40
 Rock stacker
When I was younger on the Yuba we would drag the dredge up and down stream on its floats, my current creeks are too rapid/rocky to effectively drag it on it's floats so I have to backpack my 4" in over multiple trips. Puddle jumping with a little dredge can work if you have enough water for your pump to run, you can dam up a creek but it clouds out quick making it hard to see what you are doing underwater.
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Feb 19, 2021, 09:34 AM
#41
A few years back, I was given a 1 1/2" Jobe combo. Slow, plug ups constantly so I upgraded it to a 2" . Sam at H&B made the nozzle. While it moves twice as much as the 1.5 did, it's still slow. Creek gravels are inconsistant, causing lots of rock chucking, but at my age, I don't see me working the #2 to move a couple yards of gravel a day. Since the fires last summer, I may have lost most of my equipment and hoses at the claim, so this year, another upgrade to 3" may be in order. My creek isn't big enough for floats so I'll have to build a stand for the sluice. The HFT pump is a heart attack waiting to happen just getting it down the hill 1/4 mile so once it gets there, it stays there.
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Feb 19, 2021, 09:43 AM
#42
 retired bumb and part time Hobo
Why not build a dredge with a combination of small floats and a set of wheels that would help you get the dredge over rough area's that you would rather not drag it over ? And I'd look for a dredge to buy from the West Coast and modify it to fit your needs ! Small 10/15 gallon black plastic barrels are tough and fairly cheap and EZ to replace if-n-when you get to eager to get where you want to go! I MISS DREDGING TO THYE MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Feb 19, 2021, 09:57 AM
#43
 Roger. USAF Vietnam war Combat Vet
 Originally Posted by russau
Why not build a dredge with a combination of small floats and a set of wheels that would help you get the dredge over rough area's that you would rather not drag it over ? And I'd look for a dredge to buy from the West Coast and modify it to fit your needs ! Small 10/15 gallon black plastic barrels are tough and fairly cheap and EZ to replace if-n-when you get to eager to get where you want to go! I MISS DREDGING TO THYE MAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Thanks,I've thought about it
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Feb 22, 2021, 11:54 AM
#44
 Look at the Historical Gold Mining photo albums on my page
1-1/2" & 2" dredges are a waste of time. The best of the best of the backpacker's is the little Dahlke 2.5. You may be able to shovel faster to a point but you won't completely wear yourself out dredging. Plus you can shovel with one hand, while dredging with the other. Sorry I haven't been on much this month... but we bought a new house and I'm just about done moving in now, I've had my hands full. After 40 years of gold mining, I'm still dredging, still running a trommel, and still having a blast 
Now that we're in Arizona, we can legally gold mine in every way, shoot any kind of firearm and have all kinds of fun... lol. Moving into a new house has not been the most fun but I've got a smile on my face again today, now that most of the work has been done. This week I'll be setting up the little trommel here and I already have 15 buckets of high-grade to run.
You can't go wrong with the little 2.5" Dahlke for packing in quick and easy, then a 4" Dahlke 4B these days has come a long way. These 2 dredges, now that I'm over 60, are going to be my next purchases.
16 years ago, I bought a new Dahlke Micro 4B that needed work, but these days, they have it together. I've come a long way since the old Tom Ashworth/ 49erMike forum days of old, but a lot of my old articles are still worth reading. If you're going to buy a Dahlke, then this is some good old info, Bob listened to me before he passed away and made the changes that they still use today. He has had great dredges since long before I bought my first Dahlke and his 7" is still one of my personal favorites over 30 years later 
Should you buy a Dahlke Micro 4B
I'm an Arizonan now
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Feb 22, 2021, 05:09 PM
#45
 Roger. USAF Vietnam war Combat Vet
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