May 10, 2010, 09:39 PM
Re: Drywashing pics from Az.
It is a closely guarded secret...but their formula for gold is:
Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa
Dry desert & no water= dry washer
Dry desert & rain= recirculatng wet washer
Hope that helps Real de Tayopa...both are probably best in the right situation. I think for me, dry washing might be more fun...it's like what do you think is best, blondes or brunettes? Only this is for gold diggins!
The buffalo represents the universe and the four directions, because he stands on four legs, for the four ages of man.
The buffalo was put in the west by Wakan Tanka at the making of the world, to hold back the waters.
Every year he loses one hair, and in every one of the four ages he loses a leg.
The Sacred Hoop will end when all the hair and legs of the great buffalo are gone, and the water comes back to cover the Earth.
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May 10, 2010, 09:41 PM
Re: Drywashing pics from Az.
well, a good wet recirculating high-banker or power sluice would tend to be a little better at flour gold recovery than a dry-washer. That being said I would never use one myself. I have modified my dry-washer to be an outstanding gold getting device. I can put 50-100 5 gallon buckets through it in a day and that is when pre-classifying. I had some friends that bought one of the recirc systems and they used it once out in the field and I have never seen it again.
The first issue I see is water. Where I go there is none. Yes you can pack it in but it is heavy and no mater how careful you are you will eventually lose some and have to replace it when cleaning out your processed material. It also limits how far you can hike in your set up. Most have to set up near the vehicle and hike all of their material back to the road.
The second issue I see is material processing capacity. I can shovel (or pour 5 gallon buckets) into my dry-washer all day long whereas my friend had to basically spoon feed his recirc unit. It would drive me nuts to drive for a full day, find a great spot and be limited to spoon feeding a machine. I would rather loose a tiny bit (if I even do) and process hundreds of times the material than the recirc.
Now if you are talking about processing concentrates that is a whole other story...
May 30, 2010, 01:59 PM
Re: Drywashing pics from Az.
One of the interesting things I found with my Keene electrostatic concentrator was, one day while cleaning it up, (for want of something better to do,) I removed the riffles and the frame stretched cloth under them and found a lot of dust in the "air-box". Just out of curiosity, I put all of the dust in a small pan and panned it down.
Believe it or not, there was quite a lot of fine gold. It wasn't course enough to qualify for flour gold. When I put it in a vial of water, it wasn't much more than a gold colored sludge. It was so find, I never did weigh it, but I guessimated at about 3 grams, collected from less than 4 cubic ft. of concentrates.
I've often wondered if I was the only one to discover this.
Sep 24, 2013, 07:37 PM
sounds good what part of arizona
Last edited by campokid; Sep 24, 2013 at 07:45 PM.
Sep 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
Mountain Fever is for SISSYS
Sep 25, 2013, 01:37 AM
Minning Tools: 12" Trommel, Royal Drywasher, Viper-Vac, Miller Table, Blue Bowl, Footprints, Google Earth, These Are Just Tools As You Still Have To Be On The Gold
Beth thank you for getting it right. I have lived in Tucson for 56 years. Raced off-road for many years and breathed more dust than you can imagine during the Baja 500 and 1000 mile race through Mexico. I have race many races in Arizona and Nevada. Those who have live in the southwest for any length of time have had the symptoms and most likely had no clue what was wrong with them.
Originally Posted by mrs.oroblanco
Do people die from Valley Fever?
Less than 1% of the people who get Valley Fever die from it.
John you must be one unlucky person to have known 6 friends who have died from Valley Fever. In all my years of living in Arizona I do not know anyone nor have I heard any of my friends ever discussing someone they knew that has contacted or died from Valley Fever.
Originally Posted by Hoser John
Personally I would be more concern of coming in contact with Hantavirus.
Hantavirus is carried by rodents, especially deer mice. The virus is found in their urine and feces, but it does not make the animal sick. It is believed that humans can get sick with this virus if they come in contact with contaminated dust from mice nests or droppings. You may come in contact with such dust when cleaning homes, sheds, or other enclosed areas that have been empty for a long time. However, only a couple of cases have been directly linked to camping or hiking. Most people who are exposed to the virus have come in contact with rodent droppings in their own homes. Hantavirus is a serious infection that gets worse quickly. Lung failure can occur and may lead to death. Even with aggressive treatment, more than half of people who have this disease in their lungs die.
Last edited by AzViper; Oct 04, 2013 at 07:54 PM.
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Sep 29, 2013, 12:04 PM
Wear the mask, be safe.. I hear about peeps catching valley fever a fair amount here in SoCal. 2 guys that worked the Red Chispas this summer got it bad.. Ughh. Sucks.
Wear a mask
Sep 29, 2013, 12:40 PM
I had it and tell ya......I wanted to die!I know of 7 guys that got it at the same time I did in the same area.I have a very close friend who has it right now and has been down and out for over a year,Doc's recently toldhim he can not be around dust!!Hell of a thing for a cowboy who works construction!!
Also the Dept. of Corrections recently moved the most suceptible inmates from a Central Valley Prison because of an epidemic
Last edited by kuger; Sep 29, 2013 at 10:29 PM.
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Oct 03, 2013, 09:22 PM
A friend of mine does this regularly and recovers a powder type gold from the box itself.
Originally Posted by EagleDown
Oct 05, 2013, 12:03 AM
Yeah I had a bad case of Valley Fever as a kid. And the air sacs at the top of my lungs expanded and became thin so when in my senior year of Senior High my right lung collapsed and darn near didn't graduate I was off for 3 weeks as pleurisy gave me a bad fever. Then 5 months passed and the Right Lung collapsed again and ended up in the hospital as they put a chest tube in to help the lung re-inflate. A month later another collapsed lung and had the Pleural stripping operation done so my lung wouldn't colllapse. Then in the following spring my the back of my left lung just tore open and into the hospital for the same operation that was done to my right lung. Now I have matching scars on each side that go from under my Man breast all the way around to the top of my shoulder blades. Made for a great story in the Gym Locker room. Wow man what happened to you I'd get asked and my BS reply was "oh man, I took some shrapenal in Viet Nam,it was hell over there. One day this wise guy young Engineer said,ok cut the crap,what really happened. Doh! I was told by a surgeon familiar with Valley Fever that it is a fact that once you have had it you are immune for life. Also you will always test positive for it forever.
Randy-Desert Rat in good standing.
Oct 05, 2013, 12:25 AM
Ok, which mask is the correct one to use? I get the warnings and plan to dig in the desert. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Nov 16, 2013, 12:10 PM
I just got some 3M 8200/07023 N95 masks. I don't know if they r the correct ones tho. Way better than cheap paint spray masks at the hardware store IMO.
Originally Posted by RCGoodin
Nov 17, 2013, 10:59 AM
Randy, I know this posting is a bit late, I too had Valley Fever as a kid growing up in S. Kal. I also got it again when I was in my 50s. Si it is possible to get it twice. BTW, it is a horrible d&mned thing to get !!
Nov 17, 2013, 08:01 PM
It should a one way valve at the mouth level.. If so, your good! Gets to diggin
Originally Posted by SLNugget
Nov 17, 2013, 09:40 PM
Properly, you should be tested to see if you are fit enough to wear a respirator. Then, you are fitted. If you are not getting enough oxygen, you pass out. If you pass out and you are not getting enough oxygen, you die. From what I am reading on here, you are looking at a respirator? Not just a nuisance dust mask?
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