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    Gold by Albuquerque New Mexico

    Hey folks, just moved to Rio Rancho from so cal, and I have found small flour hold in my backyard! The dirt looks horrible because it doesn't look like gravel, or rocky material it just looks like plain ole dirt, but there are some rocky parts or even rock piles that's where I tend to dig. Waiting to dry pan when the weather gets warmer. I'm also confused on where the gold source is.
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    How close are you to the Rio Grande river? It's my guess your digging up an old river channel or flood plain from the RG river and the flour float gold came in from the Rocky mountains of Colorado?

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    Who knows but just up the freeway towards Santa Fe and to the East is one gold placer and that may be your source or maybe even from ancient erosion of the Sandias or the mesa on the West side of the Rio Grande. Here is some info for you. https://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1348/report.pdf

    Good luck from a native New Mexican.
    Last edited by arizau; Jan 04, 2017 at 03:39 PM.
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    First, welcome to NM. I am just down the hill in Corrales. Not sure where in Rio Rancho you are digging but most of the town is on a high mesa and the source is more likely from the Rio Puerco. It's source is the Jemez Mountains. If you have Google Earth just go West on Southern Blvd and you will find the Rio Puerco. It's a ways.
    There isn't much actual soil there but a lot of sand and clay all up hill from the Rio Grande. Most actual soil seems to end West of Rio Grande.
    Storm waters used to dig very large arroyos working their way to the Rio Grande. I have found piles of river worn baseball size rocks in what now is a development. I have tried a bit of panning but no luck. My home has a bunch of black sand.
    The storm waters still wipe out my road from time to time.
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    Thank you all for your help and welcomes. I stay at Northern Meadows and behind my wall is just desert the gold here is so fine it doesn't look like gold up close looks kind of dull. Maybe it could be the Sandias but it's like 50 min away. I'm not sure if it's an ancient river bed because it's only random piles of dirt and rock like it was put there by man.

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    I'm also like 20 something min away from the rio grande

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    Just in case you are interested in the formation of the Sandias and the Rio Grande near Albuquerque....https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ia%20mountains
    Also this concerning the volcanoes....https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...uerque+geology
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    Thanks I'll check it out. Also the petroglyphs national park isn't to far which are volcanos

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    I've read that Edison was invited to the volcanoes to see if he could find a way to extract the gold there.
    He couldn't and left. A good thing otherwise they might not be there.
    Altitude wise the Rio Grande at Albuquerque is about 5000' and going West it rises to a ridge that's well over 6500'
    Not much gold has been found here because of the lack of water. There are some exceptions like the Ortiz Mountains.
    and the Grants areas.
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    There is gold on the East side of Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque, gold near Tierjas above Albuquerque, gold near the top of the Jemez, gold on the Ortiz mine grant between Golden and Cerrillos, gold on the Rio Grande below Santa Fe, gold on the Rio Grande above Santa Fe, Gold on the upper Pecos above Pecos, gold on lower Coyote creek near Mora, gold on Mt Baldy above the Cimmaron, gold in the Red River valley, gold in and east of Chama in the Brazos gorge and at 10,000 feet on Placitas creek, gold in the eastern Manzano mountains, gold in Ancho and White Oaks in the Jicarilla mountains, gold around and above Monticello, gold on and west of Caballo mountain, gold in the area around Hillsboro, gold at Pinos Altos, gold in the Burro mountains, gold at Gold Hill, gold on the little Blue river and gold in and around Mogollon.

    Those are the places I personally know to have mineable gold in New Mexico. I know of others but I've promised not to share those other locations. Although several are associated with nearby volcanic activity none of them are on or in volcanoes.

    The Ortiz mine grant west of Albuquerque is a very productive historical and current gold producer. That's where my group has mined for the last few years. That's where Edison built the world's largest drywasher plant and failed spectacularly. Edison believed that an electrostatic charge would increase the retention of gold and he gladly took other peoples money to prove it would work. It didn't and doesn't. The episode became known as Edison's Folly. We've sampled some of Edison's tailings and found good gold values.

    In New Mexico the Rio Grande Rift is the dominant and controlling geological feature. To understand New Mexico geology you need to get an understanding of the Rift dynamics. Along and above the Rio Grande the Santa Fe Group of deposits (PDF) fill the rift. These are mostly unconsolidated sand and stone debris and it's not uncommon to find small scattered gold in the Santa Fe Group.

    For Rio Rancho itself you will be working in the Santa Fe group with some addition from the Jemez creek deposits. The Rio Puerco is 50 miles south of Albuquerque and has no association with the geology around Albuquerque and Rio Rancho.

    Heavy Pans
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    Thanks very useful info
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    Good links.
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    So Edison found a thousand ways not to drywash.
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    Since you are new to ABQ. Be extremely careful east of Kirtland AFB/Sandia Labs. Do not go near the west side of the Monzano mountains. If you even get close you'll very quickly know why. It is not worth trying to go there. If you go to the the east side of the Manzano's don't try to go over the top. The Manzanos are hollow mountains with missiles in them. The military compound is extremely well protected. You don't want to deal with the military there. Kirtland and Sandia Labs are not places to play around either. No amount of gold is worth getting in trouble for. It is best to keep your distance. Ask a native of ABQ how close is too close. New comers won't usually know about these things. If you can see the fences you are too close! Don't even try to dig or you'll have the military on you in a very unfriendly way instantly. No matter how innocent your actions may be. Don't do it. It's not as bad as Area 51 but close. My dad sold computers to Area 51 and the little he can tell us is pretty scary.

    If you do accidentally get near the compound on the Manzanos you may get to the first gate but you won't be comfortable when several guys with weapons and dogs come to 'greet' you and you won't be allowed to leave until they thoroughly go through your vehicle while you get to have some very unfriendly dogs for close companions!

    I used to deliver freon to that compound. They used it for cooling the missiles and machinery. It was never a fun experience. When I got to the first gate they would go over the whole truck, check all paperwork then have one of the unfriendly dogs sit in the middle next to me and one of the military guards sat in the passengers seat. The route sometimes changed depending on what they did not want anyone to see. But I was always glad to get out of there. Delivering to Sandia Labs wasn't nearly as bad but still wasn't fun.

    Just be careful. You don't want to enter that compound. You could go missing! Seriously. No one will know you were taken in and no one will know what happened. There are safer and easier places to get gold.

    Also, you are in Rattlesnake country big time so if you go anywhere be aware they are out there all over. I grew up across from Manzano High before all the apartments, church and buildings were there. Our house was the last one and the mesa was between us and the Sandias. When my parents built the house it wasn't in the city limits! We had a great front and back yards with plenty of grass to play in but whenever mom told us to go out and play we always ended up in the mesa catching lizards, making tumbleweed forts and walking by ourselves to the Sandias. Those were the days when ABQ was a safe place for kids. I never saw any snakes until one day my mom was doing a little cleaning up of the landscape in our front yard and there were about a dozen baby rattlers under a bush. But then never saw any snakes after that. But I always knew they were around.

    Some of the reason the gold you are finding is spotty is because that whole area is an old river bed and you wouldn't know it now but flash floods happened all the time. Water comes off the mountains big time and off the desert when it rains. It is hard to tell now because it is all overbuilt and the city built a lot of dams and diversion channels. When I was a teen Lomas flooded behind my house in a flash flood. It ran down Lomas all the way to Los Altos where it crosses the diversion channel. The water was about three feet deep and as steep as Lomas is it was running very fast. This happened with a small rain shower. The rain shower lasted about 15 minutes and moved on quickly. After that flood the city built a couple of dams in the mesa between town and the Sandias. I doubt those are still there since they have built over all that land now but they most likely have channeled the water coming off the Sandias differently and you would never know that can happen. That big drainage ditch between the interstate is 99.9% of the time empty and dry. But there are times when it can run several feet deep with water and you don't want to be caught in it.

    On the West Side the same thing happens with the rains and they have built similar dams and drainage channels. Just because it is all desert looking doesn't mean a lot of water and dirt doesn't get moved. Don't be fooled by the dry look of the place. Some of the drainage ditches are under ground so you won't see them. The Rio Grande used to wander all over that valley. Any gold would be deposited sporadically. Because of the flash floods disturbing the ground. Do some research and find pictures of how the valley looked back before the 80's. That will give you an idea of how things used to be. In the 80's the place really changed and has become the overgrown nightmare that it is now.

    You'll find black sands and plenty of it all over the place. Take a magnet and toss it in the dirt anywhere there and it will get completely covered in a second. If there was money in black sands that place would be the motherload!

    It is funny to hear you say it takes you 50 minutes from the Sandias. When I was a kid anywhere east side or west took just about 20 minutes at most. Could drive from the west side where Rio Rancho is now to the Sandias and around back of them in less than an hour! I remember when Intel built on the west side. I could see it from the northeast heights and it was an eye sore up on the hill there. We would drive to nine mile hill sometimes and watch the sunsets and it would take about 20 minutes to get there.

    Don't know if Bella Vista is still there but if so and if they still do the fish fry that is a great place to eat. I know the place burned down a couple of times and they rebuilt. We used to go about once a month, all you can eat fish, fries and sodas. The platter they would bring out held about 2 dozen fish! And that was just the starting platter.

    El Pinto - another good restaurant but it has changed a lot since the kids took over. Still good food.
    Sadies - is great.
    Los Quates another great place. I could go on forever on the great places to eat there.
    Don't be afraid to check out the little hole in the wall places. They have some of the best food. The big flashy places usually water down the food so it is easy for the gringos to eat. Not worth the time once you have stopped being a gringo!

    Most of the 'Mexican' restaurants are real good. Just realize you won't find the bland California Mexican type restaurants unless you really look for them. Mexican restaurants in NM are really New Mexico Mexican restaurants. They have a whole lot better flavor and the best green and red chilies anywhere in the world.

    The best burgers are at Blake's. Try their green chilie burger. If you are looking for a good steak Paul's or Charlies back door but they are both in the northeast heights. Charlies is in Hoffmantown and Pauls is off Juan Tabo just north of Lomas. It is actually at the end of the street I grew up on - Sierra Grande.

    Anyway, I got way off topic.

    Good luck. The gold will be small and dirty. Be safe.

    I am getting home sick for some good food! Darn. I knew I shouldn't post to this thread!
    Last edited by mpgken; Jan 10, 2017 at 10:24 AM.

 

 
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