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    50 Tone Target Setting

    Who’s using it? Is it easier to identify targets? Can you spot the bottle caps by tone? Haven’t read any user experiances with this tone setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Escape View Post
    Who’s using it? Is it easier to identify targets? Can you spot the bottle caps by tone? Haven’t read any user experiances with this tone setting.
    I tried today. It seems to lag a little... and in trashy areas it's just bouncing all over the place. I find the mode actually very difficult to use. Heck it's hard to even find a target when you know where it is with this mode. I may use this mode in the water where I can't actually see the display... but to be honest I'm still finding 3 tone mode (custom setup) to be the most productive. I'd like to hear what others have to say about it.
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    I've been trying both out. 5 tones & 50 tones and I'll be honest, i think 5 tones works for me at the Beach, but i do like 50 tones on land. On land, its usually quieter, the subtle nuance of a 15 vs a 16 TID can actually be easily discerned compared to seagulls, waves crashing, water recycling, kids playing, security guards yelling (oh wait, that's a different thread). Anyway, i'm starting to like 50 on land but i think it's going to take more time to really audibly know the 50 tones, and i just have not had enough time to do that yet but i'm going to keep trying. Meanwhile,... 3 tone mode? Might work well too like flgliderpilot has it setup for discriminating as desired. Let's see what others think....
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    I use the 5-tone with my 600. Had the same experience with 50-tone, but like learning to hear the "ragged edge" on the signal to hear can slaw and pulltabs with the Vaquero, with another 100-hours on the headphones, who knows?!

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    I use 50. The tones can't be made to be flutey like the Explorer series, but I find 50 tones gives a variance of tones which are pleasing. I found a silver the first day out, and a silver on day2, running 50 tones. I tried 5 tones in my coin garden. Just wasn't appealing

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    Park 2 / 0 GB or GB either one / 5 tone /24 sens / recov 2 and I can not hit a quarter deeper than six inches and is iffy at six inches . Mild ground . 5 tone is the best for me so far . Really frustrating on the depth here . My deus hits at ten inches no problem .
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    Quote Originally Posted by McKinney_5900 View Post
    I use 50. The tones can't be made to be flutey like the Explorer series, but I find 50 tones gives a variance of tones which are pleasing. I found a silver the first day out, and a silver on day2, running 50 tones. I tried 5 tones in my coin garden. Just wasn't appealing
    I agree. The 5 tones is probably sufficient but the 50 tones are easy on the ears. Kinda sounds a bit like my toys from the 80's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942 merc View Post
    Park 2 / 0 GB or GB either one / 5 tone /24 sens / recov 2 and I can not hit a quarter deeper than six inches and is iffy at six inches . Mild ground . 5 tone is the best for me so far . Really frustrating on the depth here . My deus hits at ten inches no problem .
    Doesn't seem normal 1942_merc... I've hit quarters at 8" a few weeks ago but i was using Field 2 at 23 Sens. Just to be sure, if you've been doing any beach-hunting or anything in water w/sand then pop off that skidplate from the coil & clean it out, it gets gunked up with sand, and although it shouldn't cause an issue at 6" for a quarter, it will incrementally cause some signal decay depending on the type of sand. Meanwhile, i'd love to hear if you have better luck in field 2 (though i would think not) since I definitely hit a quarter in the dirt at 8". I've seen guys hitting targets at 12".

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    50 tone is great for identifying iffy's or deep targets due to the smearing of the tones. This was made famous with the e-trac's "silver warble". The warble was a type of tone you could use to identify a silver dime from a clad.
    Bucket list still needed:
    • Silver thimble
    • Spanish silver
    • seated half
    • flying eagle
    • early copper
    • 1700's coin
    • 1600's coin
    • silver 3 cent piece
    • nickel 3 cent piece
    • seated quarter
    • capped bust silver
    • draped bust silver
    • silver dollar

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    Yeah , I got some ocean front property here in SD I will sell ya . Or better yet you can have what is left of the snow on the ground and the OTHER ft I have coming . Worst spring ever .

    I have seen vids of ppl hitting deeper targets . Me not so much . I have a six inch quarter by my wood fence post and can not get a solid hit or reading on it like the deus . 50 tones is all over the place so I use 5 . This is my first minelab so thresh hold and this goofy GB thing have me at the moment . I can not seem to get outside to use it much . Maybe 10 hrs so far ?
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    To me 5 tone is less all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942 merc View Post
    Yeah , I got some ocean front property here in SD I will sell ya . Or better yet you can have what is left of the snow on the ground and the OTHER ft I have coming . Worst spring ever .

    I have seen vids of ppl hitting deeper targets . Me not so much . I have a six inch quarter by my wood fence post and can not get a solid hit or reading on it like the deus . 50 tones is all over the place so I use 5 . This is my first minelab so thresh hold and this goofy GB thing have me at the moment . I can not seem to get outside to use it much . Maybe 10 hrs so far ?
    I'm having the same problem. I'm guessing it's just me not understanding the machine yet but my 800 struggles to find a quarter at 7 inches in an air test. I'm super frustrated with that and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. All that said, I have very little time in the field with it so far so hopefully it's just me...not the detector.
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    I dug a copper rivet from some old jeans at about 9" last weekend, so that is crazy to hear about depth issues on quarters. My ground isn't too bad, as I ground balance to +13ish, but I picked it out of a yard with 3+ targets per swing.

    I am going to give 50 tones an honest try, but for now I have been running Park 2, 2 (4) recovery, 1 (2) iron bias, 5 tones, and GB to around +13 and have been quite happy.

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    To the two gents talking about struggles hitting a 6" to 7" quarter, something is wrong. I am in Oklahoma red clay (i.e. not the mildest of soils), and I can hit a 10" quarter in my test garden. And, I have dug measured 8" deep pennies/dimes "in the field" with it. Furthermore, the 10" quarter in my test garden can be detected using Park 1's default settings.

    As for tones, I run in 50 tones, and I think it's the best way to learn the machine as there's a very intelligent/nuanced language when running all 50 tones (but that would not affect the depth you could hit a quarter). If it were me, I'd encourage everyone to learn 50 tone -- and only after you understand the language consider switching to 5 tones if you so desired. But there is intelligent information, I believe, contained in the full 50 tones, that you "lose" by running only 5 tone bins. And it takes TIME to learn that language...

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgoss66 View Post
    To the two gents talking about struggles hitting a 6" to 7" quarter, something is wrong. I am in Oklahoma red clay (i.e. not the mildest of soils), and I can hit a 10" quarter in my test garden. And, I have dug measured 8" deep pennies/dimes "in the field" with it. Furthermore, the 10" quarter in my test garden can be detected using Park 1's default settings.

    As for tones, I run in 50 tones, and I think it's the best way to learn the machine as there's a very intelligent/nuanced language when running all 50 tones (but that would not affect the depth you could hit a quarter). If it were me, I'd encourage everyone to learn 50 tone -- and only after you understand the language consider switching to 5 tones if you so desired. But there is intelligent information, I believe, contained in the full 50 tones, that you "lose" by running only 5 tone bins. And it takes TIME to learn that language...

    Steve
    You must have gotten one of the good ones.
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