Yikes. This is concerning.

[BladeRunner2019]

Multi frequency not hitting silver coin on edge but single frequency does.

 

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[Tpmetal]

I just tested my 800 today. Hits quarter on edge at 8 inches no prob, hits dime edge at 6 inches strongly. Both would probably be able to be picked up deeper as well. Also hit my 8 inch half dime no roblem at all

 

[BladeRunner2019]

I just tested my 800 today. Hits quarter on edge at 8 inches no prob, hits dime edge at 6 inches strongly. Both would probably be able to be picked up deeper as well. Also hit my 8 inch half dime no roblem at all

What mode were you in?

 

[Tpmetal]

Park 2 with lowered recovery speed and sensitivity at 20 on multifrequency

 

[Tpmetal]

The numbers are slightly lower and harder to lock on but that's coins on edge for ya with any machine I've used

 

[BladeRunner2019]

Park 2 with lowered recovery speed and sensitivity at 20 on multifrequency

I read that Park 1 has more trouble than park 2. Don't know if that's true. I don't have a machine yet to test with.

 

[flgliderpilot]

beach modes also have issues with coins on edge, but that's the nature of most detectors. We are detecting the change in inductance of the search coil. A coin on edge has less effect on the inductance than a coin laying flat, for the same reason that a ring effects inductance more than a coin.

I suggest reading a book called "Inside the metal detector". You are right though, mutlfrequency mode is very high gain and sometimes the analysis can get a bit wonky. Switching to a single freq can sometimes simplify the target and make it easier to compute... but you are not going to find gold chains or identify targets in wet salt sant in 10khz single freq so there is a tradeoff.

 

[Tpmetal]

I've only had a few hours on it. I'll play around more and see what I can figure out. I'm curious to go try with the single frequencies and see if it hits better.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The numbers are slightly lower and harder to lock on but that's coins on edge for ya with any machine I've used

Spot on, I also would have dug the tones in video. I tested my 800 and it hits on coin edge, yes tones are not as hard but still tells you a good target is good target..

 

[flgliderpilot]

I've only had a few hours on it. I'll play around more and see what I can figure out. I'm curious to go try with the single frequencies and see if it hits better.

Switching to 10khz single freq and seeing if the numbers are close to multifreq is a recently discovered way to identify good targets vs junk. It does work, I've had good luck with it on land and dry sand only though. Also a good way to eliminate foils.

 

[Tpmetal]

Switching to 10khz single freq and seeing if the numbers are close to multifreq is a recently discovered way to identify good targets vs junk. It does work, I've had good luck with it on land and dry sand only though. Also a good way to eliminate foils.

What are you looking for when you do this? Just that it stays the same?

 

[flgliderpilot]

What are you looking for when you do this? Just that it stays the same?

Right, it will be close, so if you are 12-13 in multifreq, and then switch to a custom user mode, running at 10khz only, and it jumps to 16-18, then it's probably junk. It's not a guarantee but out of the many targets I dug, i found this to be a good way to eliminate can slaw, nails, etc. I was finding targets which were 19-20 which is typically a penny. When I switched to 10khz they were 24-25... when I dug them, they were copper roofing nails every time. Just one example. I had another target which was 12-13... in 10khz it was also 12-13. When I dug it, it was a ring.

It doesn't work in wet salt water sand at all though unfortunately... thats where multifreq is almost required.

 

[HighVDI]

Might be something that could be addressed through software updates?.......I hope? Haha.

 

[Tpmetal]

Right, it will be close, so if you are 12-13 in multifreq, and then switch to a custom user mode, running at 10khz only, and it jumps to 16-18, then it's probably junk. It's not a guarantee but out of the many targets I dug, i found this to be a good way to eliminate can slaw, nails, etc. I was finding targets which were 19-20 which is typically a penny. When I switched to 10khz they were 24-25... when I dug them, they were copper roofing nails every time. Just one example.

It doesn't work in wet salt water sand at all though unfortunately... but thats the reason many of us bought a multifreq machine anyway.

I bought it for the cellar holes, no salt water near me. I'm hoping the extra frequencies will give it an edge over my mxsport. Especially once I can get a smaller coil for it.

 

[flgliderpilot]

Might be something that could be addressed through software updates?.......I hope? Haha.

Actually I wish there was a mode which showed VDI as a bar chart for each of the 5 frequencies, with the VDI reading above them.

The brain is very good at finding patterns.

I watched your video and I agree with what you are seeing, my machine does something similar. I found that ground balancing mostly resolved this but not completely... Did you ground balance first?

I think this could be improved with a software fix as you stated.

 

[Normsel]

What's your concern if you don't have an Equinox... I have dug lots of quarters and dimes on their edge at 6" - 8".. I can assure you that you will miss more coins that are lying flat in the ground than the few coins on their edge you worry about..

The only thing I have noticed with coins on there edge is the signal is a bit jumpy but the dominant number is the targeted coin.

Just because some dude on a Utube video says he can't detect a coin on it's edge does not mean the Equinox cannot detect them.

In reality I would guess maybe one coin in 300 - 400 is on it's edge anyway.. No one anywhere hunts an area completely clean of targets.

 

[Tpmetal]

Actually I wish there was a mode which showed VDI as a bar chart for each of the 5 frequencies, with the VDI reading above them.

The brain is very good at finding patterns.

That would be awesome, but probably make it cost allot more

 

[BladeRunner2019]

What's your concern if you don't have an Equinox... I have dug lots of quarters and dimes on their edge at 6" - 8".. I can assure you that you will miss more coins that are lying flat in the ground than the few coins on their edge you worry about..

The only thing I have noticed with coins on there edge is the signal is a bit jumpy but the dominant number is the targeted coin.

Just because some dude on a Utube video says he can't detect a coin on it's edge does not mean the Equinox cannot detect them.

In reality I would guess maybe one coin in 300 - 400 is on it's edge anyway.. No one anywhere hunts an area completely clean of targets.

It's concerning because I am on the list to get one. Is that sufficient enough for you?

 

[vferrari]

Much ado about little. Nothing to see here.

The reason Park 1 does not hit as hard on edge is because Park 1 is weighted towards the lower freuencies which do not resolve targets with a small cross section well (think about what an on edge coin looks like to a detector coil and a detection circuit that is ideally looking for a nice round metallic disc), add to that the relatively high iron bias filtering default setting and it is no wonder Park 1 has trouble. Park 2 is biased towards the higher frequencies so it tends to hit small targets and mid-conductor targets harder (it is optimized for small jewelry, especially gold jewelry), has a higher recovery speed, and has no iron bias which will enable it to potentially hit that rare on edge coin harder. I bet gold mode would pick it up easily as well, not to mention single frequency operating at 20 or 40 khz.

No one should be panicking about these contrived outlier detecting situations you tubers like to concoct. What matters is how it does in Every Day workhorse detecting, beach detecting, and relic hunting and I have seen very little if any complaints.

Think about it, should you really be nervous about a detector that hit the streets beginning of February that you still can't get your hands in June due to overwhelming demand. That in itself should tell you that you have a pretty solid detector coming your way.

Besides, if it doesn't float your boat, you can likely recoup your investment.

 

[Terry Soloman]

Much ado about little. Nothing to see here.

The reason Park 1 does not hit as hard on edge is because Park 1 is weighted towards the lower freuencies which do not resolve targets with a small cross section well (think about what an on edge coin looks like to a detector coil and a detection circuit that is ideally looking for a nice round mettallic disc), add to that the relatively high iron bias filtering default setting and it is no wonder Park 1 has trouble. Park two is biased towards the higher frequencies so it tends to hit small targets and mod-conductor targets harder (it is optimized for small jewelry, especially gold jewelry), has a higher recovery speed, and has no iron bias which will enable it to potentially hit that rare on edge coin harder.

No one should be panicking about these contrived outlier detecting situations you tubers like to concoct. What matters is how it does in Every Day workhorse detecting, beach detecting, and relic hunting and I have seen very little if any complaints.

Besides, if it doesn't float your boat, you can likely recoup your investment.

Think about it, should you really be nervous about a detector that hit the streets beginning of February thst you still can't get your hands on due to overwhelming demand. Thst in itself should tell you that you have a pretty solid detector coming your way.

AMEN! Or, just say "Bada-Boom, Bada-Bing."