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    Beyond the 800

    Just started thinking in the middle of the night and had a question.

    I know the 800 has only been on the market for a short while, but what was the time period between the 600 and the 800?

    Are there any rumors or discussions about a new unit, maybe something like a 1000, in the near future?

    Just curious - and I know it is dangerous to think about things in the middle of the night!!!
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    Just off the top of my head in response here, when I first thought of coming back to the hobby, the Etrac was the talk of the town. It was somewhere pushing 3 years later the CTX emerged and sent heads a spinning. And here 3 years later the EQ800 is quite popular. So, I'm thinking an EQ next generation will be out in about 2 more years. Corporations need to keep the harvest going.
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    Travis Mitchell

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    The 600 and 800 came out at the same time. I think Minelab is usually around 3-5 years (CTX) but I am not aware of any rumors of new detectors from them at least but I know Makro has some things in the works. (The 600 and 800 have only been out 1 year and they have already got a huge following)

    Everyone is behind Minelab so they might stretch it as long as sales are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepseekerADS View Post
    Just off the top of my head in response here, when I first thought of coming back to the hobby, the Etrac was the talk of the town. It was somewhere pushing 3 years later the CTX emerged and sent heads a spinning. And here 3 years later the EQ800 is quite popular. So, I'm thinking an EQ next generation will be out in about 2 more years. Corporations need to keep the harvest going.
    Yep. Next year they will follow up the the pro/ plus/ supper etc. and offer a new color and people will go bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabees View Post
    Yep. Next year they will follow up the the pro/ plus/ supper etc. and offer a new color and people will go bananas.
    Yeah, this is what I wondering about
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    Quote Originally Posted by saanich2018 View Post
    Yeah, this is what I wondering about
    New friend here, let's be real about this hobby.

    I went crazy in the hobby in the 80's, I've owned 17 detectors and still have 7. Last time I went out was over a month ago.

    What's important to you? Will you really get at it aggressively, or will you end up in my era buying every new thing that comes along?

    Be safe in your future in the hobby.

    Now I'm home, retired, and NOTHING is as important to me as just paying the bills
    Republic of Vietnam 10/69 - 3/71, Cambodia April 27, 1970 on a mountain top with HUGE scorpions

    "'He jests at scars who never felt a wound'" c.s.lewis - 1940

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    Apr 2018
    Atlanta, GA
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepseekerADS View Post
    New friend here, let's be real about this hobby.

    I went crazy in the hobby in the 80's, I've owned 17 detectors and still have 7. Last time I went out was over a month ago.

    What's important to you? Will you really get at it aggressively, or will you end up in my era buying every new thing that comes along?

    Be safe in your future in the hobby.

    Now I'm home, retired, and NOTHING is as important to me as just paying the bills
    I was just curious as to how often they bring out a new unit. I was not aware of the time frame between the 600 and 800.

    Being new to this I was wondering if they bring out a new unit every year or two, like Apple!!!

    I am getting ready to order my 800 later this month
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    Seems like Apple is more like every 6 months, lol
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    Two things:
    I hope the new color isn’t neon green and no townhall meetings with a guy in a black turtle-neck.
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    I'm thinking minelab should do a gen 2 type of deal where they address the ergonomics, shaft wobble and twisting ect. Perhaps a few finishing touches of the software and more hotcakes off the griddle.
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    Oct 2018
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    In my view all Minelab has to do is to release firmware and then software updates for a couple of years to keep the Equinox updated. All the changes to the detector's performance can be accomplished this way for a few years, and then a new Equinox model with more bells and whistles will enter the market.

    It seems that the years of the "big control box" analog detectors are a thing of the past. New detectors are much like portable computers. In fact, all you would need is an app on your cellphone, and a sending/receiving Bluetooth (or similar) chip on the coil. Just an adjustable shaft with a handle, and a coil. Well, one would need to keep the cellphone battery charged, but then the shaft could very well include a battery to power the bluetooth chip on the coil.

    In relation to ergonomics, Minelab could redesign the shaft with an adjustable handle. For the time being, angled-shims and longer/shorter screws would solve that problem without interfering with the battery.

    By the way, if you happen to have a food vacuum sealer such as a Food Saver or another, you can easily build a transparent control box cover to protect the screen and control buttons. Take your time and wrap the clearer/thinner side of the bag over the entire screen and buttons (set the seam at the bottom of the control box). Just don't make it too tight around the control box since you will have to make some cuts for the cable.
    Last edited by RayinAlaska; Jan 11, 2019 at 03:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayinAlaska View Post
    In my view all Minelab has to do is to release firmware and then software updates for a couple of years to keep the Equinox updated. All the changes to the detector's performance can be accomplished this way for a few years, and then a new Equinox model with more bells and whistles will enter the market.

    It seems that the years of the "big control box" analog detectors are a thing of the past. New detectors are much like portable computers. In fact, all you would need is an app on your cellphone, and a sending/receiving Bluetooth (or similar) chip on the coil. Just an adjustable shaft with a handle, and a coil. Well, one would need to keep the cellphone battery charged, but then the shaft could very well include a battery to power the bluetooth chip on the coil.

    In relation to ergonomics, Minelab could redesign the shaft with an adjustable handle. For the time being, angled-shims and longer/shorter screws would solve that problem without interfering with the battery.

    By the way, if you happen to have a food vacuum sealer such as a Food Saver or another, you can easily build a transparent control box cover to protect the screen and control buttons. Take your time and wrap the clearer/thinner side of the bag over the entire screen and buttons (set the seam at the bottom of the control box). Just don't make it too tight around the control box since you will have to make some cuts for the cable.
    Agree with ALMOST everything you said. Not a fan of the "cell phone detector". Every time someone tries to use the phone as a control extension for something other than playing music, tv remote control, biometrics, or taking photo/video (e.g., a golf swing analyzer or garage door opener or telescope controller) it is appears to be an exercise in frustration. Too much "control" on the cell phone just results in a device that tries to do to much at once. Jack of all trades, master of none. BTW - as it stands, the standard bluetooth built into most phones today has too much latency (delay) to be used for detecting. That is why ML went with niche low latency APTX BT for its audio transmission. This is a BT protocol that doesn't appear to be gaining much acceptance for general use. Therefore, like Deus and ML's WM08 a proprietary wireless solution with minimal latency is needed for detecting.

    Much prefer a dedicated detector controller like Deus uses, with some limited integration with the phone to facilitate programming, firmware updates, and/or finds tracking.
    "The future ain't what it used to be..."

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    Yup, I'd go with a couple years from now. That's the way with most manufacturers.

  14. #14
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    Oct 2018
    Alaska
    Sovereign Equinox
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    Quote Originally Posted by vferrari View Post
    Agree with ALMOST everything you said. Not a fan of the "cell phone detector". Every time someone tries to use the phone as a control extension for something other than playing music, tv remote control, biometrics, or taking photo/video (e.g., a golf swing analyzer or garage door opener or telescope controller) it is appears to be an exercise in frustration. Too much "control" on the cell phone just results in a device that tries to do to much at once. Jack of all trades, master of none. BTW - as it stands, the standard bluetooth built into most phones today has too much latency (delay) to be used for detecting. That is why ML went with niche low latency APTX BT for its audio transmission. This is a BT protocol that doesn't appear to be gaining much acceptance for general use. Therefore, like Deus and ML's WM08 a proprietary wireless solution with minimal latency is needed for detecting.

    Much prefer a dedicated detector controller like Deus uses, with some limited integration with the phone to facilitate programming, firmware updates, and/or finds tracking.
    A dedicated detector controller is not a bad idea, and I imagine that all "not too far into the future" detectors will have options to have a control box (a controller) that is detachable or movable. It does not have to be a cellphone, of course. But whatever is used, it will incorporate, like I mentioned in my previews post, some "Bluetooth (or similar)," mode to communicate with the coil. It will eventually incorporate some sort of technology to lock on GPS, and even to connect online wirelessly. It is a matter of time, because once one company starts the trend, other will follow.

    P.S. I had a second thought: since there are only so many places we can detect over and over with all the detectors on the market that incorporate the same technologies, it leaves the door open for detector improvements that relate to target-detecting accuracy and depth. In other words, the detectors that have the capabilities of being more accurate on target acquisition or ID, plus superior target detecting depth may very well be more important to consumers than all the bells and whistles?

    ~Just wondering if reinventing the wheel is more important than improving it
    Last edited by RayinAlaska; Jan 11, 2019 at 08:14 PM.
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    Equinox 100 only Park1 and Beach2 options, only adjustments of sensitivity, auto GB and Noise Cancel, only MF, $299.99, no backlight. Wireless BT enabled, no Headphones

 

 
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