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  1. #1
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    Dec 2018
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    Request recommendation for mode and settings for searching old home site

    I have had an Equinox 800 for about 1 1/2 months now with 27 hours detecting experience with it so far. A close neighbor has an old home site on their property with only the partial remains of a foundation showing. I don't know if the property has ever been searched with a metal detector before and don't have any history of the property. I believe that a home may have been there at least since 1908 according to a USGS Historical Topo map. Without knowing anymore about the site, what mode and settings would be a good starting point for the site? This will be my first time at an old home site, so advice would be appreciated.
    Thanks
    Lamar
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    Dec 2012
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    BTW glad to have you with us
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    Jul 2015
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    Use multiple modes with the default settings other than changing the number of tones to your liking. I would use Park 1 to start then try it again with Park 2 or Field 2, shifting to 5 tones on the latter for consistency in the way the targets will sound off (I personally like 50 tones, but that is an “acquired taste” lol). Park 1 will favor high conductive targets like silver and copper, while the "2" modes will hit harder on mid conductive targets like brass, lead, and gold. So go with the mode suited to the targets you are primarily recovering. Otherwise, don't overthink or overtweak things. Be sure to noise cancel and Ground balance each mode separately and experiment with tracking ground balance, if necessary due to soil conditions. Also, don't be afraid to interrogate target hits with different modes (I store one of the two modes I am using at a site in the user profile slot so I can quickly shift between them when "interrogating" a target, with all metal (horseshoe button) and with pinpoint to get a bead on size and depth of the target. Regardless, I would initially just dig every repeatable target tone in whichever mode I am using including the bigger iron targets just to see what the site is giving up before attemoting to cherry pick or make more selective dig decisions through target interrogation and then pick a primary search mode from that experience.
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    Have you bothered to read the manual yet? It's pretty clear from the mode names what situations they are intended for. Start there.
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    Dec 2018
    Grants Pass, Oregon
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    Yes, I've read the manual several times, and continue going back to reread different items as I learn the detector more. Some things in the manual weren't understandable at first until I've had more experience with the detector. This is the first detector I have had since my purchase of a Garrett ADS III in 1983, which I still have and still works. The 800 is a total new learning experience.

    Lamar
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    us
    Jan 2017
    Western ny
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    do what v ferarri says. Then once you have a handle on it start playing with things like recovery speed. In old home sites full of iron I tend to bump it up as I get closer to areas of activity and iron, like close around the house/barn.
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    Vferrari is spot on... I to am new to the 800 maybe around 80 hrs, also new to old home sites, I havent asked for advise but I am already doing exactly what Vferrari is saying... i ran park 1 and was getting choppy signals i switch to field 2 and could get a consistent signal in the same spot the target was a copper button with a iron back...
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    us
    Dec 2018
    Grants Pass, Oregon
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    Thanks vferrari for the advice. I made a copy of your advice and plan on giving the site a try tomorrow. I really haven't hardly tried using the all metal horseshoe button much so I don't understand how you use it for interrogating.

    Lamar

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    Jul 2015
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    It is best to try all metal on clipped or one way non-ferrous tones because those are likely either mixed ferrous or falsing ferrous targets. The horseshoe allows you to hear the iron grunt to let you know if what you are hearing is likely iron. If the grunt tone sounds off synchronous with the non-ferrous or clipped high tone, especially in one direction, it is probable iron. But you will have to dig it to be 100% sure.
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    us
    Dec 2018
    Grants Pass, Oregon
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    Thanks again vferrari. I'm assuming when you say clipped, you are referring to a very short tone. I'll be trying your advice soon.

    Lamar
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  12. #12
    us
    Mar 2019
    Western Pennsylvania
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    Very simply dig it all. Park 1 works great, field one works great. I'm hitting an old homestead area in the woods and pulling out everything including old horseshoes, old silverware, old kids toys, an old treble gilt button, the still loaded barrel of an old pre civil war pepperbox gun and even sterling silver cane pieces. Even the old nails and tools you might find are really neat. If it beeps dig it!!
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    Jul 2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by lamarkeiko View Post
    Thanks again vferrari. I'm assuming when you say clipped, you are referring to a very short tone. I'll be trying your advice soon.

    Lamar
    Yes, it is clipped because the detector is derecting it as non ferrous for part of the swing and non ferrous for the other part of the swing as the coil passes over the target. If discrimination is on, you won't hear the ferrous tone and the signal sounds clipped.
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    Oct 2016
    South St Paul, MN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in Enid View Post
    Have you bothered to read the manual yet? It's pretty clear from the mode names what situations they are intended for. Start there.
    That was kind of a snarky comment, to be honest. Many of us have come to not trust either the user's manuals, or the default settings the detector comes with, and prefer to get the thoughts of experienced users. Nothing wrong with, or lazy about that. I was honestly surprised at how good the default settings were on the Equinox. I wouldn't give you two hoots and a hollar for most of the defaults on my XP Deus, however.

  15. #15
    us
    Dec 2018
    Grants Pass, Oregon
    Garrett ADS III Equinox 800
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    28 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I went out to the site yesterday pm for about 1 1/2 hrs. My first time at the site, and found that the site is loaded with trash. It's almost impossible to make a swing without multiple signals.
    There is much rusted iron trash. Nails, bolts, pieces of tin cans of all sizes, wire, iron plate, etc. It seemed that all tones would ring in, and vid numbers from low to high. I started digging all at first to see what was there, then I tried the all metal button, and I think I now know what is meant by the iron grunt. I would get a target with a fairly good high tone and push the horse shoe, and then would get mixed in with the signal the low tone in the negative vid numbers. I then stopped digging targets that showed the iron grunt with all metal, and only dug them if the tone and vid number stayed about the same when I pushed the horse shoe. I was able to find some non ferrous finds that way, but nothing of value. Several empty cartridge shells, melted aluminum and other unidentifiable brass items. I'm sure there are good finds there, but with that much trash I think it will be hard to separate.
    With this report of what I'm getting at this site, should I make some changes of how I search? Nothing has been discriminated yet. I've been sticking with the default mode settings.

    Lamar

 

 
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